She needs a different dress. This program has potential, though, and I hope she keeps it for next season. I really love the footwork sequence with the vocals - very chilling.
A little disappointed, and the girl is beating herself up for it. Didn't quite live up to the expectations of the media, the whole country, and herself. However, it is still a beautiful program and she is still at the top of the field. If this were not her first outing for the 2010-11 season, she would have easily won, in my opinion. Well done to her.
AJ, where's the full recap? Was Miki's win that traumatizing? ;)
Fun fact: Carolina Kostner finished on the podium at every event she entered this season, which a few months ago would have seemed even less likely than Aliona and Robin synchronizing their SBS spins.
I would still have her ahead of Ando. Both did 5 triples but Kim's were better quality. The lutzes looked better than ever. 4 points do not do justice to how much Kim was better in every aspect of skating, especially performing to the music.
Kim's program is beautiful - definite keeper if she is competing next season. Would love to see a new combination spin.
:( to see her cry on the podium. Losing is not a big deal. But losing to that big a mess called Ando makes me want to cry too.
When i saw the practise clip i didn't like it,thought it was kind of boring,but today i loved it(well the second half of it)when she did that 2 axel combination and everything after that it was great. I wish she would skate next year and keep this program. I'm actually surprised that i liked it as much as i did.
Sorry I meant 2.4 points (their difference in PCS)
My overall placement would be:
1. Kim 2. Ando (should have had much lower PCS) 3. Czisny (should have had higher GOEs) 4. Kostner (fell in the sp should have cost her) 5. Asada 6. Murakami 7. Leonova (should have had much lower PCS _ I am glad she doubled a 3flip; I was rooting so hard for Kostner to pull it together to make the podium instead)
I love how she hits the jumps along with the music and melody. esp the second salchow was thrilling. Also love the music cut, and her movement or skating skill is nothing to be compared.
I think she should have been given more GoE on jumps than miki's, whose gotten inflated PCS for her unrecognizable artistry. The protocol was quite disturbing overall, plus Alissa's placement would've been the fourth if world wasn't held in Russia.
My comment on her dress is "perfect". According to articles Yuna's dress was motivated by Korean traditional method of painting natural landscape like mountains, cascades, and when I read article about it, I thought that dress would be perfect one considering this program is HOMAGE to Korea, like the love-letter as she said.
the mountain design was great, esp b/c arirang is also about a woman's difficulties on a mountain path. only wish she didn't have the black sleeves, or the sleeves+high collar (like danse).
music has epic moments, but i felt it wasn't as cohesive as it could be. her skating was great though. i totally get what oppegard meant about her flowing mvmts after the triple-triple. epic, as was her spiral timing. she could do much more to improve the position, i agree, but she hit it right as the music swelled and it was amazing. (also, the speed! mao had a lovely position but was CRAWLING on the ice and it was really awkward).
the korean commentators are a hoot though. such imbalanced commentary... i'm korean and i love kim yuna, but... goodness.
I could see Yuna's legs trembling before 3F she failed.I felt that she's very nervous and trying to do her best to the very end of it and was very beautiful. I highly appreciate her ability to get over difficulties not giving up in the middle. I just hope that she competes next season. I love this program and the music.
Her LP program was a truly special one for those who have seen and felt what she has gone through for the last one year. That's all there needs to be said.
If there had not been changes in the ISU rules which was obviously done to hold Yuna...
Yuna could've easily done 2A-3T, but she had to drop this combination because 2A is allowed only 2times with the new rule. She had to replace it with 3S-2T, which has less points.
Her highly executed jumps didn't get enough points like previous seasons, because ISU changed GOE rules to minimize the effect of well executed jumps, spins and steps.
Her 3Lutz were much much better then Ando's, not to mention many other factors like step sequence, and spins which was much faster with much more transitions in between. Ando didn't even had 3-3 combi. very safe routine. Yuna's performance, interpretation, speed and overall executions were much better.
I'm so sad that Yuna might leave the figure skating world because she is so tired of everything. She had gone through very touch season this year. Numerous rumors about coach change, new environment, changes in the new ISU rules... I could see sadness in her eyes. I'd like to see her compete next season, but I'm afraid she may quit. She looks very tired and sad.. I don't want to live in a world with Yuna gone in the figure skating competition. Then I will probably stop watching.
My overall placement would be : 1. Kim 2. Ando 3. Czisny !! This program is much better than Ando's a jumping marathon one. Ando just crawls and focuses only on the jumps
Yu-na looked exhausted before every program and kind of let herself be defeated. I'm still puzzled about it because she looked so good in her practices. Tired, yes but much better than she was in her programs. I hope all is well for her because in her interviews she sounded excited about returning to competition. Whatever the case I wish her well. Hope we can see ice skating videos of her doing both programs clean.
Thank you Yuna for coming back and showing us two beautiful competition programs. How many Olympic champions have come back to the World championships twice in a row with this level of artistry and technicality? Your courage and your spirit is so inspirational. What a true Champion!
I still can't grasp the fact that she was placed behind Ando though. But who am I kidding? This is figure skating. Once again, ISU and their judges did what they were supposed to do. Are you satisfied now? Everytime this happens, I really want to retire from being a figure skating fan.
She looked really nervous yesterday and today. still I enjoyed her long program. I usually like her SPs better but since her Gershwin program I'm enjoying her LPs so much.
I do think the judges were a little unfair/inconsistent on GOEs (not just on Yuna). Then again when were figure skating judges ever fair? So we should forget about the scores.
And too bad Csizny wasn't on the podium!! I really liked her programs this year.
She couldn't win like 2010 worlds even though buying judges. How much money did Hyundai pay to ISU? Korean is poor at making backroom deals. Why don't they fight fair?
What's obvious was that only Kim's program made me moved. Even she missed two jumps, who could possibly degrade her expressional quality? No doubt I enjoyed one of the happiest moments.
so they gave it to Ando because Japan wouldn't get to host this year? I don't understand. I feel like the judging of this competition is rather questionable across the board. :/
On the 'HYUNDAI' referring to Koreans or Japanese who probably is clear. 'HYUNDAI' isu sponsor a few people know that I'll be. But let's just talk. 11 Japanese companies are sponsors of isu, isu Athlete of the rules in favor of Japan has changed is the fact that everybody knows. So that gave money to the referee is not understand. However, rich countries such as Korea, thank you so much for thinking.
some of these comments are horrible. the accusations of hyundai buying scores... and the gall and insensitivity of some people to call kim yuna an earthquake victim, when the japanese people have suffered so much. this is absolutely ridiculous.
yes it sucks that miki ando is a two time world championship when her musicality is practically nonexistant, but kim yuna made three significant errors in the sp/lp so let's stop with the insane bitching and just enjoy kim's arirang/homage to korea b/c it was lovely.
> She couldn't win like 2010 worlds even though buying judges. > How much money did Hyundai pay to ISU? > Korean is poor at making backroom deals. > Why don't they fight fair? > April 30, 2011 9:32 AM
I know that you are a Japanese.
If a certain country had bought the judges, it must have been Japan, not Korea. Hyundai is not an ISU sponsors; there is no Korean company amon ISU sponsors. Actually, 11 Japanese companies are ISU sponsors.
I hope Yuna to retire from the competition and to let "jumpers" like Ando or Asada take all gold medals. Then the dirty world of figure skating will collapse totally.
Called it in the SP post! Kostner got a boost onto the podium, a Russian barely finishes off but does manage to improve her personal best by 15 points. Shocker! They kept Ando and Kim essentially the same in scores so it could have gone either way. Haven't seen Ando's yet, but scoring shenanigans are just par for the course this Worlds. At least one of them didn't win by 30+ points... They really need to start being less blatant in their score manipulation because they are going to lose fans.
You have to be a fool to not see that this program packed so much more artistry than Miki's and Yuna is so much more talented than her competitors. But, this is a "sport" (in a way), so the best always doesn't win. I am fine with that, because in the end, had Yuna just done her regular 3/3 during SP, she would have won this easily, even after being away for 13 months. So I blame no one.
As many said, this program is definitely a keeper - it has the potential to become a true landmark program in women's figure skating, and should Yuna decide to continue, I hope she keeps this program for sure.
BTW, what I am upset about is relatively low GOEs on her 3Lutz-3T combo. This may have been Yuna's best 3Lz-3T combo EVER. That delayed 3Lutz was nothing short of absolute perfection.
Without a doubt, Yuna is the best even though make few error. Because she's program was breathtakingly beautiful, she's artistic was beyond compare. Miki ando, by comparison, is very Poor show!! judges are either insane or judges take something. It was the worst. I don't want to see figureskating if jusges keep doing this.
Those all three tech panels always gave strange "e" marks or downgrades to Yuna's flawless jumps and made decisions favorable to a certain country's skaters. All gathered in Moscow, oops, they did it again!
Disgusting. Just disgusting.... Hope Yuna is not too disappointed about all these political bullshit. Miki Ando the jumping machine gets 130? Nope, ISU judges went too far this time.. Disappointing, disgusting, I'm seriously considering not being a figure skating fan after all these years. Shame...
Yuna is the bomb no matter what.. she is the champion who no one can touch. When i watch yuna's game, i realize that overall becomes simply more than what it is. I almost forget that she is actually at competiton but enjoy her show. Yuna is a player who rarely let me feel that the figure music is a part of the synthetic art. I'm glad to live with her in the same time. Yuna kim truly is a gem in figure skating world - from Germany
Kim lost. Get over it. Kim made mistakes. It happens. There was no conspiracy, and Kim should have considered competing in more than one event. When you gamble, you can lose. She lost.
If Yuna skated clean she would have won, but she didn't. If she had skated even one competition before this she probably would have got the nerves and mistakes out and won, but she didn't. I'm not a huge Miki fan, but I feel bad for her, no need to trash her just because Yuna didn't win. If you need to blame anyone it should be the judges.
I'm not John J Wyatt, however, Yuna made mistakes in both her SP and LP. She would have won by adding just a double instead of popping a jump or singling a combo. Get over it.
Ok, that's all. Stop arguing. Ando won. And yes, Yuna placed 2nd. But I don't think she lost. It's more than placement. This program is memorable all time.
Yuna's technical elements were enough to win. Esp her 3-3 was absolutely stunning. First 3Lz was delayed- I've never seen a jump like this in ladies' figure skating. She should have higher GOE about it.
I have many things to say about the scores for Ando and Yuna but I decide to keep my mouth shut since Yuna said that she satisfies her overall performance. Although she couldn't win the world title, I think that everybody implicitly knows that Yuna is the only queen on the ice. Hope to see her next season.
Me too. My figure skating is died. I'll never see it again except when Yuna come back again.(but in my opinion, she will retire:( .. so sad.) who will gonna replay 1st placed performance? No one. It is torture.
Maybe Yuna doesnt have the hunger or desire as much as she did before she won the OGM. Funny, she was brilliant in practices but somehow couldn't deliver when it really mattered.... somehow her heart just isnt in it. She has won everything. Now you know when Ksenia skated.. she had determination and she almost wanted it too much and tried too hard.
I loved Yuna's program but somehow the spark was not there. Mao too. Maybe too much thinking... and it has been a hard year for them both.
I'm gonna have to look for another video. Maybe my expectations were too high, and I do have a different version of the music of Arirang in my ipod, played by the New York Phillarmonic, which sounds much better than the cuts used by Yuna. Her first combo was awesome like always, but she shouldn't have attempted to do the 2T after the salchow when she obviously did the 3S with little speed and flow... she should have had a plan B to add the 2T to another jump in her layout. Some of the spins I saw slow (I don't know if the video was running slow, which is why I will look for another one).
In general it looks like a good work in progress, while most here loooved the footwork sequence music cut I hated the wailing voice, it took my attention away from what she was doing on the ice. I would definitely change that to another music cut.
The dress, I know someone here explained the meaning behinds it (something about paiting and korean mountains) so it doesn't bother me but compare to other things I have seen before from her, it wasn't as good as other of her past outfits.
I think the program has potential, she can do it, but I felt that after the first mistake she went a bit stale in her performance. She had great carriage and flow through the ice, but didn't have that extra gutsy feeling I've seen from her. Again, maybe I had very high expectations with everything the media said. I don't think I would have placed her first either... its like she was a shadow of Last Season's Yuna Kim. I hope she can regroup for next season.
I hope the batshit insane Korean Yuna bots, with their really terrible English that makes it really apparent why they're here and where they came from, all keep their tearful promises to stop following skating forever. The sport doesn't need any more "fans" who only care about one skater.
Yuna's skating is beautiful, and, to many, even the best of all time. Nevertheless, the sport was, is, and always will be beautiful, and greater than any one skater (even Michelle Kwan, my all-time favorite). I hope Korean/Yuna fans will consider sticking around, fair weather or not.
When I see her performing on the ice, every moment is just gorgeous and breathtaking. Yes, she singled her flip, but her speed acrossing the ice, the quality of her jumps, and overall presentation were a way better than Ando's. Yuna deserved higher GOE than that on her protocols. I can't get that thought out of my head.
Her decision to come back and compete again would not have been easy at all, especailly after those perfect two programs in the olympic. I thought she would retire, but she came back and showed us her beautiful skating again. I really respect her courage. Thanks, Yuna, for me, you are the most beautiful skater!
As much as I normally really enjoy Yuna's skating (she is one of the GOAT), I thought this performance was lack luster and sloppy. A few of the spins were not well centered and under-rotated, a few of the jumps went awry and the footwork was off (and it almost felt like she gave up in some parts).
I think this program has the potential to be iconic and I hope she stays around for a while longer to show it.
(I also wonder how this program would have been performed if she stayed with Orser... I know it sounds mean but I hope she gained a new appreciation for his coaching ability today)
You may watch a singer, an actor, or a dancer performs and feel somehow inspired or even slightly touched, and may just think afterwards 'Pah, that's just a song/acting/dance, a show'. But you just might have forgot that it takes pure dedication, heart and guts to move an inch of people's mind. A nameless actor myself, I often wonder if it's really worthwhile to dedicate one's life for another an evening's entertainment of another person. When I see Yuna's performance, I feel inspired and then my heart trembles, because I could imagine what hard work and blood and guts she must have given to achieve that sophisticated level of detail, flow, and expression. I don't care whoever won the game or the well-known unfairness of ISU (not a new story anyway). But I was utterly sad to see Yuna crying on the podium today. She never showed that type of bitterness, even in her most difficult times of injuries or in the face of unjustice. I can't even imagine what her mind was going through. Maria Callas, the soprano, said, "It takes sacrifice, love and dedication; one has to burn oneself out, there's no other way. And what's all that for? Life is hard. If our work could make people feel better, then all those work is worthwhile." I send my warmest reagrds to Yuna, because it's so rare to meet a master, an artist in any given field, who is really ready to give.
Scary Korean Yunabots are scary. Is there a cult-of-personality gene in Korean DNA? Now I understand how Rev. Moon came about. Batshit crazy Korean stans please get a fucking grip on reality before you hurt yourself and others. Why don't you guys put as much passion into something useful, like campaigning against the despicable Korean practice of eating dogs? OT, I was just in Seoul this February and was shocked at the openness of consuming dog meat in restaurants.
Neither Yuna's nor Miki's programs deserve so much passionate hate or debate among true skating fans. The ladies were only okay this season. Can't wait for those un-tacky Russian ladies to debut next seasons cuz the likes of Alena and Ksenia won't do when Sochi comes around.
If Yuna could get her shit together and actually compete instead of just showing up at WCs, she could still reign supreme. But until she learns to say no to her momager/ ATS/ people making money off of her, she's gonna be unhappy skating in shows and placing 2nd to inferior skaters like Miki.
Dog meat thing is totally irrelavant issue here, nothing more than a comment based on ignorance of cultural differences. For god's sake, unless you're a complete vegiterian, who do you think you are to blame anybody eating a dog, when most of beef, pork, and chicken we comsume today are produced absolutely inhumanely in mass-factory-like farm system?
And stop being so smart-ass. It's easy to be greedy and say 'that wasn't good enough. Give more, more, more! Or else, fuck off'. You don't even give it a thought these poor gals and boys have spent most of their teenage and early 20's on the ice, practicing, practicing and practicing? Gosh, people, where's sense of appreciation?
"The child I was rooting for LOST! OH NOES!! I'll never watch skating again, because it should only have the results ***I**** want! WAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"
Appreciate Orser's coaching ability? So tell me whom else Orser's coaching who is anyway close being a top single skater?
Brian Joubert, after spending a summer with Orser, complained that he wasn't very professional. So did Tomas Verner, that Orser never quite provided 1to1 session. And oh, didn't Adam Rippon recently fired Orser too?
AJ did this because he's gotten hella lazy on this blog. Look at how many people contribute via content and commentary. He obviously doesn't care as much about it.
She's a great skater. But this program isn't fully seasoned.
The good: Some big jumps, and a lovely footwork sequence. The middle: Serviceable spins and spiral, good basic skating. The bad: Botched jumps, little choreography, bland music.
As a program debut at a major competition, it is perfectly understandable - nearly everyone looks like this early in the Grand Prix series. Even a champion, and she is a champion, needs time to pace and tweak a program.
Yuna shouldn't bother to attend anymore judged events. The judging scores were obviously biased. And I am not Korean. By the way I have actually been to Korea unlike some of these posters who seem to be spouting rumours. I haven't seen any evidence of dog eating or whatsoever. Also don't talk about justice, what justice, I am actually quite shocked the scores aren't officially challenged. Biased judges will always be biased. If you do a bit of studying into each judge's scoring you will see trends.
Re: I know what you mean.BUT!!! wait a minute, what trends... Ando : same value of technical elements at olympic. despite of more poor performence than that time but, +6 points?
are we going to actually get a comprehensive review from AJ? I understand he may be busy and that's fine, i'm just curious. I always enjoy the breakdown.
Anyway, Have you heard about Yuna has decided to donate her prize for Japanese children? She is the another level one. She can't compare with anyone else!!
Never thought I'd root for Ando over Kim but the day finally came!! No more ridiculous overscoring! At least the judges gave her a chance--something they neved did for Mao last season.
"Crazy Yunabots are crazy." ==> An ancient Korean monk said only a Buddha can be caught in the eye of a Buddha while only a pig can be caught in the eye of a pig. I can see you're one of those bots who are crazy.
"ATS says Yuna will donate Worlds prize money(about 27,000$) to UNICEF for the children in Japan. "
ATS is laughable. First of all, UNICEF helps children in 3rd world nations like Bangladesh, it doesn't provide assistance to Japanese children. It does however have an administrative/ policy offices in Japan and other industrialized nations.
So stop with your attempts to beatify Yuna into a saint or something. It truly is becoming to be a bit much.
Anon @ 5:16: I am a subscriber to UNICEF USA, and after the tsunami they sent out an email asking for donations for the children of Japan. The email was sent from Caryl M. Stern, UNICEF USA on Tuesday, March 15th. So stop with your attempts to vilify Yu-Na fans and ATS; pretty disgusting how you even spit on a purely charitable action.
"An ancient Korean monk said only a Buddha can be caught in the eye of a Buddha while only a pig can be caught in the eye of a pig. I can see you're one of those bots who are crazy."
I call it like I see it. I see a bunch of Yunabots with their insane ramblings about unfair judging when their Queen doesn't win. FS is a judged sport, obviously Yuna accepts her results, why can't her bitter fans do the same?
What Yunabots' lack in graciousness, intelligence, and humility, they more than make up for it in obstinate ignorance. Yuna is a fantastic skater and obviously too nice of a person to be stuck with batshit crazy fans that she has.
I still don't believe Ando got a higher score than Yuna. Where is the Sportive Spirit gone? This result has proved that the spirit of sport is money. Shame on you, judges.
I thought Yu-na's program was beautiful;the mistakes obviously cost her the gold medal. I have to question the decision to sit out all competitions this season and not prepare competitively for Worlds. That's a really odd decision actually; or it's a very arrogant decision (hey, I don't need to get competitively toughened up to win, I can just walk in there and win) and that doesn't sound like Yu-na at all. I think Peter has some answering to do for this decision and I question the wisdom. I think she and the program could have won the gold with proper competitive preparation. Didn't her coach tell her that?
I always like to watch Yuna's skating much more then Ando's. Yet as much as I want to see Yuna or Mao win, I don't think Yuna deserves to win this time. She popped two jumps, and her skating was slow, hesitating. The is still a sport, jumps deserve more credits. I give a lot of credit to Mao, she is such a determined, courageous young lady, she is still the one who has lots to offer. The spiral at the end of her free program is so unique.
[ Those all three tech panels always gave strange "e" marks or downgrades to Yuna's flawless jumps and made decisions favorable to a certain country's skaters. All gathered in Moscow, oops, they did it again! April 30, 2011 10:33 AM ]
Right.
Technical Controller : Ms. Susan LYNCH (who gave the only 'e' of Yuna's entire career at 2008 COC) Technical Specialist : Mr. Shin AMANO (Japanese) Assistant Technical Specialist : Ms. Myriam LORIOL-OBERWILER (who gave the only downgrade of Yuna's entire career at 2009 Tokyo GPF)
Reading all these comments, I feel like everyone has somewhat higher(at time even harsh) standards for Yuna, and Yuna only. When I read lines like "her skating was slow" "her movement was choppy", I feel like they have to be followed by "...for Yuna" or "...compared to her best performance."
Yuna deserves to win on paper, but on the ice this time she didn't deserve it. As much as I can't stand Miki's skating, I have to give it to the girl, she was consistent the entire season.
BTW, I think it's tacky of ATS to announce to the world what Yuna or her mom donates to charity and what not. Just be charitable, you don't have to announce it over the loudspeaker unless you're seeking validation or congratulatory attention.
Beautifully said. Your writing moved at least a few "inches of my mind." ;)
>>>Anonymous said...
You may watch a singer, an actor, or a dancer performs and feel somehow inspired or even slightly touched, and may just think afterwards 'Pah, that's just a song/acting/dance, a show'. But you just might have forgot that it takes pure dedication, heart and guts to move an inch of people's mind. A nameless actor myself, I often wonder if it's really worthwhile to dedicate one's life for another an evening's entertainment of another person. When I see Yuna's performance, I feel inspired and then my heart trembles, because I could imagine what hard work and blood and guts she must have given to achieve that sophisticated level of detail, flow, and expression. I don't care whoever won the game or the well-known unfairness of ISU (not a new story anyway). But I was utterly sad to see Yuna crying on the podium today. She never showed that type of bitterness, even in her most difficult times of injuries or in the face of unjustice. I can't even imagine what her mind was going through. Maria Callas, the soprano, said, "It takes sacrifice, love and dedication; one has to burn oneself out, there's no other way. And what's all that for? Life is hard. If our work could make people feel better, then all those work is worthwhile." I send my warmest reagrds to Yuna, because it's so rare to meet a master, an artist in any given field, who is really ready to give. April 30, 2011 2:55 PM
I don't think announcing a donation to UNICEF is a TACKY action as some are calling it here. Secret donation is admirable in a way that it is humble, but public donation isn't any less admirable in a way that it encourages others to follow. Yuna's fans donated a good chunk of money to Haiti after Yuna. It's a good influence.
"Reading all these comments, I feel like everyone has somewhat higher(at time even harsh) standards for Yuna, and Yuna only. When I read lines like "her skating was slow" "her movement was choppy", I feel like they have to be followed by "...for Yuna" or "...compared to her best performance."
Well, Yuna's ubers talk up her programs so much, what do you expect?
"Well, Yuna's ubers talk up her programs so much, what do you expect? "
What do I expect? hmm to answer that somewhat curt question, I'd say then one should have still stated that "compared to what Yuna's ubers talk it up to be" because it is still still talking in a relative sense.
"Arirang" is a Korean folk song, sometimes considered the unofficial national anthem of Korea.[1] Arirang is an ancient native Korean word with no direct modern meaning.
Here's a link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arirang
I just hope that next year it's Mirai & Alissa qualifying for Worlds and not Flatt & someone else. did anyone else read Phil Hersch's article on the event today?
"[ Those all three tech panels always gave strange "e" marks or downgrades to Yuna's flawless jumps and made decisions favorable to a certain country's skaters. All gathered in Moscow, oops, they did it again! April 30, 2011 10:33 AM ]
Right.
Technical Controller : Ms. Susan LYNCH (who gave the only 'e' of Yuna's entire career at 2008 COC) Technical Specialist : Mr. Shin AMANO (Japanese) Assistant Technical Specialist : Ms. Myriam LORIOL-OBERWILER (who gave the only downgrade of Yuna's entire career at 2009 Tokyo GPF)"
Just when I think Yunabots can't get any crazier, here comes the conspiracy theorist Yunabots. LOL, keep this up bots, cuz this is some entertaining shit you're putting out. Your words are so overzealous that I don't even have to point out how insane you bots are as a collective group.
Again, thank you for providing me a diversion from my studies today, it's been fun.
Even though I am a huge Yuna fan, I am disappointed about her placement in this competition. I don't want to discuss about what could have been or who should have won.
After watching this competition, it was clear who is the queen of figure skating right now: Queen Yuna. that's good enough for me.
I liked this person's words so much I repost it here without his/her consent. I hope this person understands. One of many things I really appreciate about Yuna's effort is that she always includes audience in her world and invites us to it whenever she performs. That implies she includes audience in her mind as she spends countless hours on the ice going through the same routine over and over again preparing for her performances. That thoughtfulness, that consideration, I am thankful to her for that. And it shows in her performances and in the fact that even in her less perfect performances there is always something to remember the performance by.
Below is the post I mentioned:
You may watch a singer, an actor, or a dancer performs and feel somehow inspired or even slightly touched, and may just think afterwards 'Pah, that's just a song/acting/dance, a show'. But you just might have forgot that it takes pure dedication, heart and guts to move an inch of people's mind. A nameless actor myself, I often wonder if it's really worthwhile to dedicate one's life for another an evening's entertainment of another person. When I see Yuna's performance, I feel inspired and then my heart trembles, because I could imagine what hard work and blood and guts she must have given to achieve that sophisticated level of detail, flow, and expression. I don't care whoever won the game or the well-known unfairness of ISU (not a new story anyway). But I was utterly sad to see Yuna crying on the podium today. She never showed that type of bitterness, even in her most difficult times of injuries or in the face of unjustice. I can't even imagine what her mind was going through. Maria Callas, the soprano, said, "It takes sacrifice, love and dedication; one has to burn oneself out, there's no other way. And what's all that for? Life is hard. If our work could make people feel better, then all those work is worthwhile." I send my warmest reagrds to Yuna, because it's so rare to meet a master, an artist in any given field, who is really ready to give.
Yuna got more points for her SP layback than Alissa. That was a gift from the judges that she didn't deserve. I think she's the best skater, but she wasn't at this competition.
Yuna didn't got enough GOE for her fooktwork and jumps, too. Even Miki and Leonova got more GOE than her. How do you think about that? Is it gift from judges too? One more thing. If Miki had 64 PCS, Yuna would have to 68 over.
Yuna is a goodwill ambassador for UNICEF. I think she is supposed to announce her donation as loud as she can so that it would inspire others to donate also.
Yuna looked so tense during both her programs. Although I think her programs were beautiful, don't think I'll rewatch it much.
and someone please help me understand how Miki scored around 124 with a clean program at the Olympics but scored over 130 at this Worlds with the doubling, stepout, and no 3-3? Maybe she isn't so bad, despite what Sandra Bezic said haha. Maybe I just don't see it in her because I'm so high on Yunacrack. But I gotta say this time the Yunacrack wasn't so strong.
It's hard to win a world championship with 2 single jumps. I guess Kim was in on the conspiracy too. If Kim skated better, she would have won. She didn't. Or would you have us believe that if she had skated the exact way she did in Vancouver, her scores would have been dozens of points lower?
I am not one of the haters, I like YuNa and thought she absolutely deserved an Olympic gold medal, but this program underwhelmed me - even if she had skated it better I still don't think its one of her best.
She should really get rid of the spiral.
The only program I really liked today was Alissa's (though absolutely LOVE the program Mao has been skating in exhibitions this year).
Once you decide to forget about the color of the medal, whose performance would you rather replay and watch again? Whose performance moves your heart? This long program is beatiful and graceful. Yuna still proved herself to be the best in the field.
"Once you decide to forget about the color of the medal, whose performance would you rather replay and watch again? Whose performance moves your heart? This long program is beatiful and graceful. Yuna still proved herself to be the best in the field."
I hope Yuna (and other graceful female skaters who were treated unfairly by ISU) to retire. Then the sport named "figure skating" will soon collapse by the jumping beans who have no artistry.
I don't know why people evaluate Yuna's performance by her previous "best" performance. If she make mistakes, cannot she win the competition? Do you think that all winners cleaned thier programs in last year? Yes, this is a competition. Therefore, even if Ando did her best performance, meanwhile, Yuna did her worst performance, if Yuna's performance is better than Ando's, Yuna should win the competition. That's the rule.
About Yuna's dress; I expected you guys who aren't Korean couldn't grasp its meaning:) Her dress is designed based on traditional Korean ink-and-wash painting technique; which depicts nature in a black & white color. http://www.flickr.com/photos/56596454@N08/5675243804/ It's so familiar and well known in our culture that I assume every Korean must have realized instantly what it was when Yuna unveiled her dress, without any need of further explanations. Yuna's dress is aslo designed based on the folding screen picture that was always stood behind a king's seat. http://www.flickr.com/photos/56596454@N08/5675266554/ The picture depicts 5 famous Korean mountains, river, sun and moon that represents Korea, Yin&Yang, 5 virtues that were considered priceless in Korean (and Asian) culture; benevolence, righteousness, propriety, wisdom and sincerity. There are much more to this picture, but I think this much would be enough for you to understand the cultural background of Yuna's dress; which was greatly praised when unveiled among Korean people that she brought the most beautiful&exquisite dress that represents Korea, or Korean style.
I'm a bit uncomfortable about all the bitching on 'Yunabots'. True that some of them are over emotional and over protective, it's easy to blame when you don't know the history.
You don't know what it is like to become the very first, with no understanding and support from the around and with no existing infrastructure available. Especially in the field like figureskating, which costs lots of money, requires good enough infra, and whose authority is famously inconsistent (if not unjust).
Many would only see Yuna in her present glory, who has it all and dose it all seemingly so easily, and call her 'queen' and 'arrogant'. But they are all very hard won, and I dare say, even harder than one from USA or Japan for example. 'She's a hack of competitor' said they? Gosh, she would have been long thrown away if she weren't.
I laugh at somebody commenting that judges are favouring Yuna, because at least for the most part of her career, that has been exactly the opposite. In 2008 Worldchamps, for example, many in the figureskating commented that Yuna was the true gold (she was given the bronze then) and blamed, yet again, ISU for its unjustice.
And her fans, 'Yunabots' as some of you despisingly call, had walked through all those with Yuna, and somewhat become inbittered and disillusioned about the whole figureskating business. They may look an overprotective mother, and that exactly are they, but for reasons and even for good reasons, possibly.
Yu-na brought in such an inspiration into ladies figure last year, showing great athletism can be seamlessly combined with artistic quality. As boring as the whole season may have been, one can see many more ladies trying more arms and upperbody movements and transitions between technical elements.
But just then ISU is giving more credit to those who just didn't fall or popped their jumps. I loved Leonova's FS in Russian national for example. But in the Worldchamps, she was just hoping not to fall down and skipped all the expressive elements, making that wonderful program completely washed out... and voilla, she got her new SB, I think?
Why do they bother with music and costume etc. at all then? One could just check who has higher and more fully rotating jumps then - by the way, I think Yu-na would still win then by a fair margin.
It's very depressing for the fans who were expecting to see a bit more artstry in the future.
OMG. Speechless. There is nothing to discuss. We should just keep our mouths shut and watch Yu-Na's beautiful program. I love this Arirang program much more than her Olympics LP. Back on the ice in 13months with those amazing two programs... Just WOW! What a brave girl..
According to the Korean press, Yu-Na had an injury on her right ankle. It was pretty bad enough to affect her free program. On the day of short program, she felt pain in her ankle during warm-up but she just skated because it was not that bad. She said that she told nothing about her pain because she didn't want to make it a lame excuse. Remember what happened back in 2008 Worlds when her back injury was publicly announced? She also hesitated to attend today's gala, but she just decided to skate. She is INDEED a brave girl. Judges should be ashamed of themselves. I know they love money, but still... it's no other than Queen Yu-Na. It would be much easier for them just to admit it. Why is it so hard for them?
Oh Lord, as if Yuna vids aren't deleted deliberately ;) I'm not saying stupid things like all japanese are bad, just pointing out the fact that Yuna vids ARE BEING DELETED from the Youtube, very frequently and deliberately. No need denying it. Call me whatever bot you like, but it is a fact that there are threads about how to delete Yuna's Youtube vids efficiently in japanese website called 2channel.
So beautiful.. I am so touched with her dedicated program for her fans in Korea. I dont care about the color of the medal... It is well known that ISU expressed their gratitude and symphacy to Japanese people for their generous sponsorship and hardship from earthquake disaster... However, it is a stretch to put Miki Ando in to the first place.. She was neither elengant nor technically superior... To make figure skating more popular, we should have more skaters like Yuna.. She is the superstar and will be a direction to go..
I am just tired with dealing with stupid Jap money.. ISU you dont deserve the grestest skater in the history. Please live with boring Jap skater and Enjoy radioactive stuffs.
May 1, 2011 12:32 PM 제일처음 나라망신 시키지말라고 부탁드렸던사람입니다. 영어를 한국말보다 더많이 쓰고 한국인보다 미국인들을 더많이 상대하는 입장에서 한소리 하자면 단순히 사대주의에 쩔어서 웃기고자빠진게 아니라 니들이 나와서 살아보면 미국인들이 영어못하는 외국인들을 단순히 외국인이니까라고 결코너그럽게 이해해주지 않는다는것을 알게될껍니다. 그리고 댁영어가 평생 제대로교육받은 독일인들 영어랑 같은수준이라고 착각하는게 진짜 창피한줄모르시는거 같네요 댁들이 이런블로그에 앞뒤논리에도 안맞고 말도안되는 영어로 떠든다거나 어학연수랍시고 잠깐와서 하는행동들이 이나라에 평생살아야하는 사람들에게 얼마나 큰짐을 떠맡기고 가는지 알아주길바라는건 아니지만 내가한는 말이 잡소린지 댁이하는 말이 열등감과 근거없는 자신감에서 나오는 소린지 구분은할필요가 있어보이네요
So, why didn't Yuna bother to appear for the tribute to Japan part of the gala? There was no difficult skating required, she could have managed it even if she did have that "ankle injury"
At the end, figure skating fans remember masterpieces by skaters. Katarina Witt's Carmen, Alexei Yagudin's winter.. and Yuna's dance macabre/Gershwin concerto F... Arirang is so beautiful and has a lot of potential to be one of Yuna's masterpieces.. It is so sad that we would not see this great program again..
"I am just tired with dealing with stupid Jap money.. ISU you dont deserve the grestest skater in the history. Please live with boring Jap skater and Enjoy radioactive stuffs."
Are you truly sincere not? It must be difficult to contain all this vitriol while pretending to be charitable towards disaster victims in Japan. You have deep-seated emotional/ psychological issues that need to be addressed....channelling hate/ obsession in all things Yuna will not work in the long run. You should get some counseling and possibly meds, you sound psychologically unstable from a biochemical perspective... I'm speaking as a Doctoral student in Biochemistry/ Cell Metabolism. Seriously, get some help before you shoot up a mall or something.
For you idiot Korean Yunabots posting in Korean, go back to your own Korean forums if you're going to do so. You guys do realize the more you rant, the more you 'poison' Yuna's skating for the rest of us true FS fans? Yuna is losing fans because of lunatics like you, and nothing you say will win them back, understand?
I wish Yuna would retire so that we don't have to deal with Yunabots whose "love" of skating is as deep as a puddle of fake tears. The verbal diarrhea that you're spewing matches the constipation of intellect and tact that you are suffering from.
Hey sorry for Japanese people for their tragedy... However, please do not build any nuclear plant in your country.. It is reckless to build them on land with so many earth quakes and tsunami.. I live in the west coast and radioactive iodine and cesium materials have been detected from tap water and milk... Anywhere in the world is not safe. Hope Japanese can contain the issue ASAP and dont spread any harm to any other countries.. S
You really need to seek your own shrink. You are a racist. Mind your own biz plz."
I wish I had a lower IQ so that I could see things from your perspective, alas there isn't an IQ that low so I guess it's not meant to be.
This blog is in ENGLISH, so I'm saying if you feel compelled to post in Korean then do so on a Korean blog....how hard is it to comprehend this basic idea? Oh wait, I forgot that you have the IQ of a gnat, for that I'm very sorry.
I bet I have better IQ than you have. You are trying to insult other people.. at the end.. it is YOU who got insulted... Which school are you attending??? Dont they teach ethics class? Dont they have Anti-Harassment Guideline? You must attend Podunk University.. Truely, you dont deserve PhD degree.
"I bet I have better IQ than you have. You are trying to insult other people.. at the end.. it is YOU who got insulted... Which school are you attending??? Dont they teach ethics class? Dont they have Anti-Harassment Guideline? You must attend Podunk University.. Truely, you dont deserve PhD degree."
Oh dear....you really ARE taking this seriously, oh well just as I thought, you are indeed in dire need of some strong psych meds.
I only insult people who deserve my insults, I'm talking about biased and hate-filled Yunabots like yourself who hijack innocuous posts about Yuna, and in turn create havoc for those of us attempting to have insightful conversations with each other about Yuna and FS in general.
At this point it's clear to me that you're a masochist who enjoys getting insulted and thus keeps coming back for more. I was just trying to half provoke you, so to speak, with our little tete a tete here. I didn't know you guys take things SOOO seriously....get a sense of humor okay? But in the end, you're not giving anything substantial to work with, you see it's nearly impossible to carry on a debate or verbal tit for tat with someone so ill-equipped intellectually as you seem to be.
So I'm going to be kind and just leave your one, solitary brain cell alone, it's obviously taken enough hits today. That way you can continue to sit and worship at the altar of Yuna all day long. Peace out and please lighten up, it's no healthy to be so angry and serious...now THAT is a scientific fact.
Grow up and Get a life! Stop typing from Japan.. I can smell radioactive iodine/cesium from your thread. Get a very good health life insurance to cover your medical cost when you get cancer in your life.
Sick of Japanese fans.. who comes to see Yuna Kim's performance and mocking her innocent fans!! Why dont you spend your energy to watch your Miki or Mao??? You are not doing any good to your favorite skaters? You are putting shits for them... Arent you same on yourselves?
Well, Yu-Na definitely wins in the competition of most unhinged fans. I wish I could say I can't believe some of the comments I'm reading, but really, I'm not surprised.
"At this point it's clear to me that you're a masochist who enjoys getting insulted and thus keeps coming back for more. I was just trying to half provoke you, so to speak, with our little tete a tete here. I didn't know you guys take things SOOO seriously....get a sense of humor okay? But in the end, you're not giving anything substantial to work with, you see it's nearly impossible to carry on a debate or verbal tit for tat with someone so ill-equipped intellectually as you seem to be"
You sure do not understand the concept of Harrasment. Let me give you a lesson.
Harassment covers a wide range of offensive behaviour. It is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset, and it is characteristically repetitive. In the legal sense, it is intentional behaviour which is found threatening or disturbing.
Whatever you said about me, I dont give a damn. You are commiting a crime. You are a racist and harassing other people. You said you just joked??? That's a crime, dude!
It is simple. If you dont like Yuna and dont liker her fans, skip and read the next thread. Do not waste your time and effort in here. There are many interesting and great posting at this site...
Did you pass qualifying exam? Did you finish proposal and defense? I am really worried.. With current job market, dont you need to try to find a job rather than wasting time here?
Are you Yunabots for real? Are you seriously bringing up the devastation in Japan over Miki Ando winning the world title instead of Yuna? This is ridiculous. It's FIGURE SKATING folks. I don't see any of Miki's fans (or Mao's for that matter) saying anything like "Well, I hope Kim Jong Il takes over South Korea" or "Hope you all become Commies within the next year". Ugh, just ugh.
IMO you all need to be locked up in a psychiatric ward, sedated monitored heavily, and released when Yuna officially retires (which I hope is soon so I don't have to read any of this bullshit anymore). The way you crazed fans act is absolutely appalling and, to be honest, embarrassing for the sport. I used to love Yuna, that is, until you ubers came along and ruined her skating for me and countless others.
Let's hope Mirai comes back strong next year and kicks her ass, girl's got all the goods to be a champ. All she needs are nerves of steel (which she showed she has at 4CC).
"IMO you all need to be locked up in a psychiatric ward, sedated monitored heavily, and released when Yuna officially retires (which I hope is soon so I don't have to read any of this bullshit anymore). The way you crazed fans act is absolutely appalling and, to be honest, embarrassing for the sport. I used to love Yuna, that is, until you ubers came along and ruined her skating for me and countless others"
Watch your mouse. You dont have right to lock up all people who have different opinion from yours... You need to relax and stop cursing to someone else. I advise you not to watch Yuna's video.. As you said, you dont like bullshit? Why do you bother to argue with your so called Yunabots?
I bet you want Yuna to retire officially not because of her fans. She is so threatening and continue to win titles over your favorite skaters.. I just saw a post that Yuna will compete next season. Perhas not all of grand prix series but some of major events... Sorry that you are disappointed.. Queen will continue to compete.
Hey! fake shrink, it's not fans but jap money that is ruining figure skate.
Asada was pcs queen then, now is a jumping bean with no emotion. Who's gonna be the next pcs queen? I think it will be Murakami or Risa. We'll see that nonsesnce soon.
I think he is a jap shrink. You should take care of the mental state of Japs. Japs never apologized their war crimes to Asians. you remember Nanking massacre? It was a mass murder and war rape that occurred during the six-week period following the Japanese capture of the city of Nanjing (Nanking), the former capital of the Republic of China, on December 13, 1937 during the Second Sino-Japanese War. During this period, up to hundreds of thousands of Chinese civilians and disarmed soldiers were murdered and 20,000–80,000 women were raped[1] by soldiers of the Imperial Japanese Army.
She needs a different dress. This program has potential, though, and I hope she keeps it for next season. I really love the footwork sequence with the vocals - very chilling.
ReplyDeleteI love the Triple Lutz+Death Drop
ReplyDeleteNot loving the dress...
ReplyDeleteSeemed a little tentative, but even though it was not perfect I don't understand how this was still not better than Ando's crosscuts...
If only that 2nd mark was used properly, we wouldn't have to live in a world where Ando has more world titles than Kim...
I hope Kim keeps this next year and does it justice!
A little disappointed, and the girl is beating herself up for it. Didn't quite live up to the expectations of the media, the whole country, and herself. However, it is still a beautiful program and she is still at the top of the field. If this were not her first outing for the 2010-11 season, she would have easily won, in my opinion. Well done to her.
ReplyDeleteneeds more work
ReplyDeleteYou are the best!! I hope Yuna competes next season and keeps her programs :)
ReplyDeleteI love Queen Yuna!! xoxo
AJ, where's the full recap? Was Miki's win that traumatizing? ;)
ReplyDeleteFun fact: Carolina Kostner finished on the podium at every event she entered this season, which a few months ago would have seemed even less likely than Aliona and Robin synchronizing their SBS spins.
I would still have her ahead of Ando. Both did 5 triples but Kim's were better quality. The lutzes looked better than ever. 4 points do not do justice to how much Kim was better in every aspect of skating, especially performing to the music.
ReplyDeleteKim's program is beautiful - definite keeper if she is competing next season. Would love to see a new combination spin.
:( to see her cry on the podium. Losing is not a big deal. But losing to that big a mess called Ando makes me want to cry too.
why did she hold her ending for only 2 seconds?
ReplyDeleteWhen i saw the practise clip i didn't like it,thought it was kind of boring,but today i loved it(well the second half of it)when she did that 2 axel combination and everything after that it was great.
ReplyDeleteI wish she would skate next year and keep this program.
I'm actually surprised that i liked it as much as i did.
her demeanor and presence on the ice looked cautious and "aware"
ReplyDeleteI agree, the footwork sequence with vocals was the highlight and was well executed.
Sorry I meant 2.4 points (their difference in PCS)
ReplyDeleteMy overall placement would be:
1. Kim
2. Ando (should have had much lower PCS)
3. Czisny (should have had higher GOEs)
4. Kostner (fell in the sp should have cost her)
5. Asada
6. Murakami
7. Leonova (should have had much lower PCS _ I am glad she doubled a 3flip; I was rooting so hard for Kostner to pull it together to make the podium instead)
This program is much better than Ando's a jumping marathon one.
ReplyDeleteWhy would you do this, Aunt Joyce?
ReplyDeleteYou know what this post is going to become...
I love how she hits the jumps along with the music and melody. esp the second salchow was thrilling. Also love the music cut, and her movement or skating skill is nothing to be compared.
ReplyDeleteI think she should have been given more GoE on jumps than miki's, whose gotten inflated PCS for her unrecognizable artistry. The protocol was quite disturbing overall, plus Alissa's placement would've been the fourth if world wasn't held in Russia.
My comment on her dress is "perfect". According to articles Yuna's dress was motivated by Korean traditional method of painting natural landscape like mountains, cascades, and when I read article about it, I thought that dress would be perfect one considering this program is HOMAGE to Korea, like the love-letter as she said.
alissa should have been higher!
ReplyDeletethe mountain design was great, esp b/c arirang is also about a woman's difficulties on a mountain path. only wish she didn't have the black sleeves, or the sleeves+high collar (like danse).
ReplyDeletemusic has epic moments, but i felt it wasn't as cohesive as it could be. her skating was great though. i totally get what oppegard meant about her flowing mvmts after the triple-triple. epic, as was her spiral timing. she could do much more to improve the position, i agree, but she hit it right as the music swelled and it was amazing. (also, the speed! mao had a lovely position but was CRAWLING on the ice and it was really awkward).
the korean commentators are a hoot though. such imbalanced commentary... i'm korean and i love kim yuna, but... goodness.
This program is so beuatiful that i blowned away
ReplyDeleteI want to see Yuna's this program next season!
I think this is her best competition program ever. It's a shame she made some mistakes but the footwork section is absolutely stunning.
ReplyDeleteNot my favorite of Yuna Kim, but I still think it deserved a better score...
ReplyDeleteHands down the best free of the season.
ReplyDeleteAnd probably the best she's ever done.
Come back next season, Yuna, and do it justice!!
I could see Yuna's legs trembling before 3F she failed.I felt that she's very nervous and trying to do her best to the very end of it and was very beautiful.
ReplyDeleteI highly appreciate her ability to get over difficulties not giving up in the middle.
I just hope that she competes next season.
I love this program and the music.
I just noticed Leonova got more GOE in step sequence than Kim. WTF?
ReplyDeleteHer LP program was a truly special one for those who have seen and felt what she has gone through for the last one year. That's all there needs to be said.
ReplyDeleteIf there had not been changes in the ISU rules which was obviously done to hold Yuna...
ReplyDeleteYuna could've easily done 2A-3T, but she had to drop this combination because 2A is allowed only 2times with the new rule. She had to replace it with 3S-2T, which has less points.
Her highly executed jumps didn't get enough points like previous seasons, because ISU changed GOE rules to minimize the effect of well executed jumps, spins and steps.
Her 3Lutz were much much better then Ando's, not to mention many other factors like step sequence, and spins which was much faster with much more transitions in between. Ando didn't even had 3-3 combi. very safe routine. Yuna's performance, interpretation, speed and overall executions were much better.
I'm so sad that Yuna might leave the figure skating world because she is so tired of everything. She had gone through very touch season this year. Numerous rumors about coach change, new environment, changes in the new ISU rules... I could see sadness in her eyes. I'd like to see her compete next season, but I'm afraid she may quit. She looks very tired and sad.. I don't want to live in a world with Yuna gone in the figure skating competition. Then I will probably stop watching.
Please don't ever come back next season. Do whatever you want outside the whole ISU craps. They don't deserve to watch yuna's competition programs.
ReplyDeleteThank you Yuna. You're the one.
My overall placement would be : 1. Kim 2. Ando 3. Czisny !! This program is much better than Ando's a jumping marathon one. Ando just crawls and focuses only on the jumps
ReplyDeleteFigureskating competition in the Ladies without Yuna is so dull, but I don't want Yuna to go through this again.
ReplyDeleteYu-na looked exhausted before every program and kind of let herself be defeated. I'm still puzzled about it because she looked so good in her practices. Tired, yes but much better than she was in her programs. I hope all is well for her because in her interviews she sounded excited about returning to competition. Whatever the case I wish her well. Hope we can see ice skating videos of her doing both programs clean.
ReplyDeleteShe is the best.
ReplyDelete"I just noticed Leonova got more GOE in step sequence than Kim. WTF?"
ReplyDeleteLOL, that's Mother Russia.
Deja vu of 2008 World. Where is the justice?
ReplyDeletepolitic sacrifice...
ReplyDeleteI want Yu-na go to Usa
Don't touch Queen..
Thank you Yuna for coming back and showing us two beautiful competition programs. How many Olympic champions have come back to the World championships twice in a row with this level of artistry and technicality? Your courage and your spirit is so inspirational. What a true Champion!
ReplyDeleteI still can't grasp the fact that she was placed behind Ando though. But who am I kidding? This is figure skating. Once again, ISU and their judges did what they were supposed to do. Are you satisfied now? Everytime this happens, I really want to retire from being a figure skating fan.
She looked really nervous yesterday and today.
ReplyDeletestill I enjoyed her long program.
I usually like her SPs better but since her Gershwin program I'm enjoying her LPs so much.
I do think the judges were a little unfair/inconsistent on GOEs (not just on Yuna). Then again when were figure skating judges ever fair? So we should forget about the scores.
And too bad Csizny wasn't on the podium!! I really liked her programs this year.
Gold Ando
ReplyDeleteSilver Kostner
Bronze Leonova
She couldn't win like 2010 worlds even though buying judges.
How much money did Hyundai pay to ISU?
Korean is poor at making backroom deals.
Why don't they fight fair?
What's obvious was that only Kim's program made me moved. Even she missed two jumps, who could possibly degrade her expressional quality? No doubt I enjoyed one of the happiest moments.
ReplyDeleteI'm sick and tired of ISU and judges. especially technical panel. disgusting!
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ReplyDeleteApril 30, 2011 9:32 AM....
OK, They're coming to your blog.
so they gave it to Ando because Japan wouldn't get to host this year? I don't understand. I feel like the judging of this competition is rather questionable across the board. :/
ReplyDeleteSimply put, Yuna became an earthquake victim.
ReplyDeleteIt was obvious that Ando's program was nothing special, just boring. I almost fell asleep.
ReplyDeleteOn the 'HYUNDAI' referring to Koreans or Japanese who probably is clear. 'HYUNDAI' isu sponsor a few people know that I'll be. But let's just talk. 11 Japanese companies are sponsors of isu, isu Athlete of the rules in favor of Japan has changed is the fact that everybody knows. So that gave money to the referee is not understand. However, rich countries such as Korea, thank you so much for thinking.
ReplyDeletesome of these comments are horrible. the accusations of hyundai buying scores... and the gall and insensitivity of some people to call kim yuna an earthquake victim, when the japanese people have suffered so much. this is absolutely ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteyes it sucks that miki ando is a two time world championship when her musicality is practically nonexistant, but kim yuna made three significant errors in the sp/lp so let's stop with the insane bitching and just enjoy kim's arirang/homage to korea b/c it was lovely.
Ando's program was very slow...I thought she'd stop in the middle.
ReplyDeleteI watched a video Irina crying at seeing Yuna cry.
ReplyDeleteIt must have reminded her of her Olympic moments.
You know what I mean.
> She couldn't win like 2010 worlds even though buying judges.
ReplyDelete> How much money did Hyundai pay to ISU?
> Korean is poor at making backroom deals.
> Why don't they fight fair?
> April 30, 2011 9:32 AM
I know that you are a Japanese.
If a certain country had bought the judges, it must have been Japan, not Korea. Hyundai is not an ISU sponsors; there is no Korean company amon ISU sponsors. Actually, 11 Japanese companies are ISU sponsors.
I hope Yuna to retire from the competition and to let "jumpers" like Ando or Asada take all gold medals. Then the dirty world of figure skating will collapse totally.
Ando is just mediocre...nothing special.. just consistent jumping bean. no emotion...
ReplyDeleteCalled it in the SP post! Kostner got a boost onto the podium, a Russian barely finishes off but does manage to improve her personal best by 15 points. Shocker! They kept Ando and Kim essentially the same in scores so it could have gone either way. Haven't seen Ando's yet, but scoring shenanigans are just par for the course this Worlds. At least one of them didn't win by 30+ points... They really need to start being less blatant in their score manipulation because they are going to lose fans.
ReplyDeleteYou have to be a fool to not see that this program packed so much more artistry than Miki's and Yuna is so much more talented than her competitors. But, this is a "sport" (in a way), so the best always doesn't win. I am fine with that, because in the end, had Yuna just done her regular 3/3 during SP, she would have won this easily, even after being away for 13 months. So I blame no one.
ReplyDeleteAs many said, this program is definitely a keeper - it has the potential to become a true landmark program in women's figure skating, and should Yuna decide to continue, I hope she keeps this program for sure.
BTW, what I am upset about is relatively low GOEs on her 3Lutz-3T combo. This may have been Yuna's best 3Lz-3T combo EVER. That delayed 3Lutz was nothing short of absolute perfection.
Needs more work and a different dress.
ReplyDeleteWithout a doubt, Yuna is the best even though make few error.
ReplyDeleteBecause she's program was breathtakingly beautiful, she's artistic was beyond compare.
Miki ando, by comparison, is very Poor show!!
judges are either insane or judges take something.
It was the worst.
I don't want to see figureskating if jusges keep doing this.
Common guys, plz just ignore trolls.
ReplyDeleteThey just wanna mess up here, again.
Her program was absolutely beautiful and moved me.
Don't need to be back, Yuna. I just hope you take a rest..
Beautiful..
ReplyDeleteYuna,
ReplyDeleteI hope you do whatever you want.
You gave us so much joy and so many beautiful programs.
I'll be happy to see you become happy.
Never forget this exquisite program.
Those all three tech panels always gave strange "e" marks or downgrades to Yuna's flawless jumps and made decisions favorable to a certain country's skaters.
ReplyDeleteAll gathered in Moscow, oops, they did it again!
still my No.1 is yuna.
ReplyDeleteThank you for show your beautiful performances.
Disgusting. Just disgusting....
ReplyDeleteHope Yuna is not too disappointed about all these political bullshit.
Miki Ando the jumping machine gets 130?
Nope, ISU judges went too far this time.. Disappointing, disgusting, I'm seriously considering not being a figure skating fan after all these years. Shame...
Yuna is the bomb no matter what.. she is the champion who no one can touch.
ReplyDeleteWhen i watch yuna's game, i realize that overall becomes simply more than what it is. I almost forget that she is actually at competiton but enjoy her show. Yuna is a player who rarely let me feel that the figure music is a part of the synthetic art.
I'm glad to live with her in the same time.
Yuna kim truly is a gem in figure skating world
- from Germany
Full of trolls as I expected. Poor Yuna.. stunningly beautiful program though. I'm afraid she might quit competing after this appalling event.
ReplyDeleteKim lost. Get over it. Kim made mistakes. It happens. There was no conspiracy, and Kim should have considered competing in more than one event. When you gamble, you can lose. She lost.
ReplyDeleteIf Yuna skated clean she would have won, but she didn't. If she had skated even one competition before this she probably would have got the nerves and mistakes out and won, but she didn't.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a huge Miki fan, but I feel bad for her, no need to trash her just because Yuna didn't win. If you need to blame anyone it should be the judges.
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ReplyDeleteRe: John J Wyatt.
Ando also made mistakes. Ando didn't even have 3-3. Her artistry was better than Yuna? No. How come you're sure there was no conspiracy.
I'm not John J Wyatt, however, Yuna made mistakes in both her SP and LP. She would have won by adding just a double instead of popping a jump or singling a combo. Get over it.
ReplyDeleteOk, that's all. Stop arguing.
ReplyDeleteAndo won. And yes, Yuna placed 2nd. But I don't think she lost. It's more than placement. This program is memorable all time.
Yuna's program was breathtaking!!!
ReplyDeletebut I don't understand her score.
Kim's performance was much better than Ando's both technically and artistically.
(most of Kim's jumps were DELAYED!! WOW-!)
How many people would replay Ando's performance?
i don't think so. cuz it was NOT the world champion's performance.
but many people would remember Kim's beautiful program.
Thank you Yuna for coming back and showing us gorgeous programs.
YOU ARE THE BEST, YUNA!!!
Yuna's technical elements were enough to win.
ReplyDeleteEsp her 3-3 was absolutely stunning.
First 3Lz was delayed- I've never seen a jump like this in ladies' figure skating. She should have higher GOE about it.
Whether jumps succeed or fail can be important.
ReplyDeletebut HOW one did it can also be important.
That's why GOE exists.
so despite yuna kim's jump mistake, she had to get more GOE. Her jumps were extraordinary. but judges didn't give her proper points, i think.
Enough is enough.
ReplyDeleteBye bye, figureskating.
Never see you again.
I have many things to say about the scores for Ando and Yuna but I decide to keep my mouth shut since Yuna said that she satisfies her overall performance. Although she couldn't win the world title, I think that everybody implicitly knows that Yuna is the only queen on the ice. Hope to see her next season.
ReplyDeleteMe too. My figure skating is died.
ReplyDeleteI'll never see it again except when Yuna come
back again.(but in my opinion, she will retire:(
.. so sad.)
who will gonna replay 1st placed performance?
No one. It is torture.
Shame on you, judges. Figure skating is no more a sport and should be removed from the Olympics.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Yuna doesnt have the hunger or desire as much as she did before she won the OGM. Funny, she was brilliant in practices but somehow couldn't deliver when it really mattered.... somehow her heart just isnt in it. She has won everything. Now you know when Ksenia skated.. she had determination and she almost wanted it too much and tried too hard.
ReplyDeleteI loved Yuna's program but somehow the spark was not there. Mao too. Maybe too much thinking... and it has been a hard year for them both.
I'm gonna have to look for another video. Maybe my expectations were too high, and I do have a different version of the music of Arirang in my ipod, played by the New York Phillarmonic, which sounds much better than the cuts used by Yuna. Her first combo was awesome like always, but she shouldn't have attempted to do the 2T after the salchow when she obviously did the 3S with little speed and flow... she should have had a plan B to add the 2T to another jump in her layout. Some of the spins I saw slow (I don't know if the video was running slow, which is why I will look for another one).
ReplyDeleteIn general it looks like a good work in progress, while most here loooved the footwork sequence music cut I hated the wailing voice, it took my attention away from what she was doing on the ice. I would definitely change that to another music cut.
The dress, I know someone here explained the meaning behinds it (something about paiting and korean mountains) so it doesn't bother me but compare to other things I have seen before from her, it wasn't as good as other of her past outfits.
I think the program has potential, she can do it, but I felt that after the first mistake she went a bit stale in her performance. She had great carriage and flow through the ice, but didn't have that extra gutsy feeling I've seen from her. Again, maybe I had very high expectations with everything the media said. I don't think I would have placed her first either... its like she was a shadow of Last Season's Yuna Kim. I hope she can regroup for next season.
I hope the batshit insane Korean Yuna bots, with their really terrible English that makes it really apparent why they're here and where they came from, all keep their tearful promises to stop following skating forever. The sport doesn't need any more "fans" who only care about one skater.
ReplyDeleteyeah~~ando&judges won.yuna lost.
ReplyDeletesimply I wouldn't feel like watching figure skating any more.
that's it.
Yuna's skating is beautiful, and, to many, even the best of all time. Nevertheless, the sport was, is, and always will be beautiful, and greater than any one skater (even Michelle Kwan, my all-time favorite). I hope Korean/Yuna fans will consider sticking around, fair weather or not.
ReplyDeleteWhen I see her performing on the ice, every moment is just gorgeous and breathtaking.
ReplyDeleteYes, she singled her flip, but her speed acrossing the ice, the quality of her jumps, and overall presentation were a way better than Ando's. Yuna deserved higher GOE than that on her protocols. I can't get that thought out of my head.
Her decision to come back and compete again would not have been easy at all, especailly after those perfect two programs in the olympic. I thought she would retire, but she came back and showed us her beautiful skating again. I really respect her courage. Thanks, Yuna, for me, you are the most beautiful skater!
ReplyDeleteshe's getting stronger I feel.
ReplyDeletethank you for coming back, yuna!
how can I ever thank you.
Absolutely fantastic program!
ReplyDeleteFab sequined dress!
bored.
ReplyDeletelol @ 8.55am.
ReplyDeleteAs much as I normally really enjoy Yuna's skating (she is one of the GOAT), I thought this performance was lack luster and sloppy. A few of the spins were not well centered and under-rotated, a few of the jumps went awry and the footwork was off (and it almost felt like she gave up in some parts).
ReplyDeleteI think this program has the potential to be iconic and I hope she stays around for a while longer to show it.
(I also wonder how this program would have been performed if she stayed with Orser... I know it sounds mean but I hope she gained a new appreciation for his coaching ability today)
so I know this is kind of OT but is Flatt going to go to school now?
ReplyDeleteYou may watch a singer, an actor, or a dancer performs and feel somehow inspired or even slightly touched, and may just think afterwards 'Pah, that's just a song/acting/dance, a show'. But you just might have forgot that it takes pure dedication, heart and guts to move an inch of people's mind. A nameless actor myself, I often wonder if it's really worthwhile to dedicate one's life for another an evening's entertainment of another person.
ReplyDeleteWhen I see Yuna's performance, I feel inspired and then my heart trembles, because I could imagine what hard work and blood and guts she must have given to achieve that sophisticated level of detail, flow, and expression.
I don't care whoever won the game or the well-known unfairness of ISU (not a new story anyway). But I was utterly sad to see Yuna crying on the podium today. She never showed that type of bitterness, even in her most difficult times of injuries or in the face of unjustice. I can't even imagine what her mind was going through.
Maria Callas, the soprano, said, "It takes sacrifice, love and dedication; one has to burn oneself out, there's no other way. And what's all that for? Life is hard. If our work could make people feel better, then all those work is worthwhile."
I send my warmest reagrds to Yuna, because it's so rare to meet a master, an artist in any given field, who is really ready to give.
Scary Korean Yunabots are scary. Is there a cult-of-personality gene in Korean DNA? Now I understand how Rev. Moon came about. Batshit crazy Korean stans please get a fucking grip on reality before you hurt yourself and others. Why don't you guys put as much passion into something useful, like campaigning against the despicable Korean practice of eating dogs? OT, I was just in Seoul this February and was shocked at the openness of consuming dog meat in restaurants.
ReplyDeleteNeither Yuna's nor Miki's programs deserve so much passionate hate or debate among true skating fans. The ladies were only okay this season. Can't wait for those un-tacky Russian ladies to debut next seasons cuz the likes of Alena and Ksenia won't do when Sochi comes around.
If Yuna could get her shit together and actually compete instead of just showing up at WCs, she could still reign supreme. But until she learns to say no to her momager/ ATS/ people making money off of her, she's gonna be unhappy skating in shows and placing 2nd to inferior skaters like Miki.
We've got your love letter.
ReplyDeleteAs a figure skating fan, it's gonna be last forever in my "DNA".
It's not about score or placement.
It's about justice.
so, I cannot say any opinion in front of this love letter.
love you lord!!!
Re: April 30, 2011 3:05 PM
ReplyDeleteDog meat thing is totally irrelavant issue here, nothing more than a comment based on ignorance of cultural differences. For god's sake, unless you're a complete vegiterian, who do you think you are to blame anybody eating a dog, when most of beef, pork, and chicken we comsume today are produced absolutely inhumanely in mass-factory-like farm system?
And stop being so smart-ass. It's easy to be greedy and say 'that wasn't good enough. Give more, more, more! Or else, fuck off'. You don't even give it a thought these poor gals and boys have spent most of their teenage and early 20's on the ice, practicing, practicing and practicing? Gosh, people, where's sense of appreciation?
Yuna hits 2Lz 5tripiles 3Lz+3T
ReplyDeleteGOE Matters.
So shut up if you want to say technical mistakes.
and anyway, Ando's 2a+2t+2lo problem didn't counted..
and finally PCS ...
Don't dare tell only her to fight judges.
She's a fighter, appearently. so, there she is now.
and we can call her "Queen" today.
Yeah, because it's "sports" and has rules.
and, rules must be treated to every skater in proper standard.
"The child I was rooting for LOST! OH NOES!! I'll never watch skating again, because it should only have the results ***I**** want! WAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"
ReplyDeleteWhatever, bots.
Re: April 30, 2011 2:16 PM
ReplyDeleteAppreciate Orser's coaching ability? So tell me whom else Orser's coaching who is anyway close being a top single skater?
Brian Joubert, after spending a summer with Orser, complained that he wasn't very professional.
So did Tomas Verner, that Orser never quite provided 1to1 session.
And oh, didn't Adam Rippon recently fired Orser too?
Now, who's a great coach?
AJ did this because he's gotten hella lazy on this blog. Look at how many people contribute via content and commentary. He obviously doesn't care as much about it.
ReplyDeleteWell, at least AJ didn't put on Miki's performance here. Thank god for that!
ReplyDeleteShe's a great skater. But this program isn't fully seasoned.
ReplyDeleteThe good: Some big jumps, and a lovely footwork sequence.
The middle: Serviceable spins and spiral, good basic skating.
The bad: Botched jumps, little choreography, bland music.
As a program debut at a major competition, it is perfectly understandable - nearly everyone looks like this early in the Grand Prix series. Even a champion, and she is a champion, needs time to pace and tweak a program.
Yuna shouldn't bother to attend anymore judged events. The judging scores were obviously biased. And I am not Korean. By the way I have actually been to Korea unlike some of these posters who seem to be spouting rumours. I haven't seen any evidence of dog eating or whatsoever.
ReplyDeleteAlso don't talk about justice, what justice, I am actually quite shocked the scores aren't officially challenged. Biased judges will always be biased. If you do a bit of studying into each judge's scoring you will see trends.
^^
ReplyDeleteAre you for real? It's not a rumor. When did you go to Korea? I've actually been there more than once....stayed w/ friends in Sinsa Dong.
Re:
ReplyDeleteI know what you mean.BUT!!!
wait a minute, what trends...
Ando : same value of technical elements at olympic. despite of more poor performence than that time but, +6 points?
That's a joke.
Anyway!!!!
ReplyDeleteThis FS program is the best program at 2010 WC.
No matter what they say,that will never change;).
are we going to actually get a comprehensive review from AJ? I understand he may be busy and that's fine, i'm just curious. I always enjoy the breakdown.
ReplyDeleteI want to know what you think, AJ. (BTW, Yuna is THE champion no matter what.)
ReplyDeleteATS says Yuna will donate Worlds prize money(about 27,000$) to UNICEF for the children in Japan.
ReplyDeleteI'm korean and one of the "Yunabots" AND really hope that she'll retire.
Anyway, Have you heard about Yuna has decided to donate her prize for Japanese children?
ReplyDeleteShe is the another level one.
She can't compare with anyone else!!
Crazy Yunabots are crazy
ReplyDeleteCrazy Maobots are crazy
ReplyDeleteNever thought I'd root for Ando over Kim but the day finally came!! No more ridiculous overscoring! At least the judges gave her a chance--something they neved did for Mao last season.
ReplyDelete"Crazy Yunabots are crazy." ==> An ancient Korean monk said only a Buddha can be caught in the eye of a Buddha while only a pig can be caught in the eye of a pig. I can see you're one of those bots who are crazy.
ReplyDelete"ATS says Yuna will donate Worlds prize money(about 27,000$) to UNICEF for the children in Japan. "
ReplyDeleteATS is laughable. First of all, UNICEF helps children in 3rd world nations like Bangladesh, it doesn't provide assistance to Japanese children. It does however have an administrative/ policy offices in Japan and other industrialized nations.
So stop with your attempts to beatify Yuna into a saint or something. It truly is becoming to be a bit much.
Anon @ 5:16: I am a subscriber to UNICEF USA, and after the tsunami they sent out an email asking for donations for the children of Japan. The email was sent from Caryl M. Stern, UNICEF USA on Tuesday, March 15th. So stop with your attempts to vilify Yu-Na fans and ATS; pretty disgusting how you even spit on a purely charitable action.
ReplyDelete"An ancient Korean monk said only a Buddha can be caught in the eye of a Buddha while only a pig can be caught in the eye of a pig. I can see you're one of those bots who are crazy."
ReplyDeleteI call it like I see it. I see a bunch of Yunabots with their insane ramblings about unfair judging when their Queen doesn't win. FS is a judged sport, obviously Yuna accepts her results, why can't her bitter fans do the same?
What Yunabots' lack in graciousness, intelligence, and humility, they more than make up for it in obstinate ignorance. Yuna is a fantastic skater and obviously too nice of a person to be stuck with batshit crazy fans that she has.
I still don't believe Ando got a higher score than Yuna. Where is the Sportive Spirit gone? This result has proved that the spirit of sport is money. Shame on you, judges.
ReplyDeletequeen look like swan... ando? hiroshima
ReplyDeleteI thought Yu-na's program was beautiful;the mistakes obviously cost her the gold medal. I have to question the decision to sit out all competitions this season and not prepare competitively for Worlds. That's a really odd decision actually; or it's a very arrogant decision (hey, I don't need to get competitively toughened up to win, I can just walk in there and win) and that doesn't sound like Yu-na at all. I think Peter has some answering to do for this decision and I question the wisdom. I think she and the program could have won the gold with proper competitive preparation. Didn't her coach tell her that?
ReplyDeleteAny Korean fan please tell how do you feel about Kim's black costume...
ReplyDeleteI had expected more colorful one, as they say "arirang" is name of flower.
To.AJ
ReplyDeletecheck it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYZUKEihwrg&feature=player_embedded
I always like to watch Yuna's skating much more then Ando's. Yet as much as I want to see Yuna or Mao win, I don't think Yuna deserves to win this time. She popped two jumps, and her skating was slow, hesitating. The is still a sport, jumps deserve more credits.
ReplyDeleteI give a lot of credit to Mao, she is such a determined, courageous young lady, she is still the one who has lots to offer. The spiral at the end of her free program is so unique.
[ Those all three tech panels always gave strange "e" marks or downgrades to Yuna's flawless jumps and made decisions favorable to a certain country's skaters.
ReplyDeleteAll gathered in Moscow, oops, they did it again! April 30, 2011 10:33 AM ]
Right.
Technical Controller : Ms. Susan LYNCH (who gave the only 'e' of Yuna's entire career at 2008 COC)
Technical Specialist : Mr. Shin AMANO (Japanese)
Assistant Technical Specialist : Ms. Myriam LORIOL-OBERWILER (who gave the only downgrade of Yuna's entire career at 2009 Tokyo GPF)
Reading all these comments, I feel like everyone has somewhat higher(at time even harsh) standards for Yuna, and Yuna only. When I read lines like "her skating was slow" "her movement was choppy", I feel like they have to be followed by "...for Yuna" or "...compared to her best performance."
ReplyDeleteYuna deserves to win on paper, but on the ice this time she didn't deserve it. As much as I can't stand Miki's skating, I have to give it to the girl, she was consistent the entire season.
ReplyDeleteBTW, I think it's tacky of ATS to announce to the world what Yuna or her mom donates to charity and what not. Just be charitable, you don't have to announce it over the loudspeaker unless you're seeking validation or congratulatory attention.
Beautifully said. Your writing moved at least a few "inches of my mind." ;)
ReplyDelete>>>Anonymous said...
You may watch a singer, an actor, or a dancer performs and feel somehow inspired or even slightly touched, and may just think afterwards 'Pah, that's just a song/acting/dance, a show'. But you just might have forgot that it takes pure dedication, heart and guts to move an inch of people's mind. A nameless actor myself, I often wonder if it's really worthwhile to dedicate one's life for another an evening's entertainment of another person.
When I see Yuna's performance, I feel inspired and then my heart trembles, because I could imagine what hard work and blood and guts she must have given to achieve that sophisticated level of detail, flow, and expression.
I don't care whoever won the game or the well-known unfairness of ISU (not a new story anyway). But I was utterly sad to see Yuna crying on the podium today. She never showed that type of bitterness, even in her most difficult times of injuries or in the face of unjustice. I can't even imagine what her mind was going through.
Maria Callas, the soprano, said, "It takes sacrifice, love and dedication; one has to burn oneself out, there's no other way. And what's all that for? Life is hard. If our work could make people feel better, then all those work is worthwhile."
I send my warmest reagrds to Yuna, because it's so rare to meet a master, an artist in any given field, who is really ready to give.
April 30, 2011 2:55 PM
I don't think announcing a donation to UNICEF is a TACKY action as some are calling it here. Secret donation is admirable in a way that it is humble, but public donation isn't any less admirable in a way that it encourages others to follow. Yuna's fans donated a good chunk of money to Haiti after Yuna. It's a good influence.
ReplyDelete"Reading all these comments, I feel like everyone has somewhat higher(at time even harsh) standards for Yuna, and Yuna only. When I read lines like "her skating was slow" "her movement was choppy", I feel like they have to be followed by "...for Yuna" or "...compared to her best performance."
ReplyDeleteWell, Yuna's ubers talk up her programs so much, what do you expect?
"Well, Yuna's ubers talk up her programs so much, what do you expect? "
ReplyDeleteWhat do I expect? hmm to answer that somewhat curt question, I'd say then one should have still stated that "compared to what Yuna's ubers talk it up to be" because it is still still talking in a relative sense.
@Anon 4:58 PM
ReplyDeleteThat's true, too but they're not around now for obvious reasons.
**Ando
ReplyDelete3-3? doesn't have.
2-3? fail.
artistic? terrible.
choreography? Sorry, Could Not Resist.
plus, very dull as dishwate.
**Yuna
3-3? magnificent.
2T, 3F? fail.
artistic? incommensurableness.
choreography? fantastic from start to finish.
plus, music and dress is creative and beautiful and harmonious.
So, Who should won ???
I'm nothing remains but to think machinations or judges are stupid.
Regardless of what others say, Yuna is the world best. Ando was very poor.
ReplyDelete@Anon, April 30, 2011 6:01 PM
ReplyDelete"Arirang" is not a name of flower.
"Arirang" is a Korean folk song, sometimes considered the unofficial national anthem of Korea.[1] Arirang is an ancient native Korean word with no direct modern meaning.
Here's a link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arirang
I just hope that next year it's Mirai & Alissa qualifying for Worlds and not Flatt & someone else. did anyone else read Phil Hersch's article on the event today?
ReplyDelete"[ Those all three tech panels always gave strange "e" marks or downgrades to Yuna's flawless jumps and made decisions favorable to a certain country's skaters.
ReplyDeleteAll gathered in Moscow, oops, they did it again! April 30, 2011 10:33 AM ]
Right.
Technical Controller : Ms. Susan LYNCH (who gave the only 'e' of Yuna's entire career at 2008 COC)
Technical Specialist : Mr. Shin AMANO (Japanese)
Assistant Technical Specialist : Ms. Myriam LORIOL-OBERWILER (who gave the only downgrade of Yuna's entire career at 2009 Tokyo GPF)"
Just when I think Yunabots can't get any crazier, here comes the conspiracy theorist Yunabots. LOL, keep this up bots, cuz this is some entertaining shit you're putting out. Your words are so overzealous that I don't even have to point out how insane you bots are as a collective group.
Again, thank you for providing me a diversion from my studies today, it's been fun.
AJ~ GET UP!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteEven though I am a huge Yuna fan, I am disappointed about her placement in this competition. I don't want to discuss about what could have been or who should have won.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching this competition, it was clear who is the queen of figure skating right now: Queen Yuna. that's good enough for me.
I liked this person's words so much I repost it here without his/her consent. I hope this person understands. One of many things I really appreciate about Yuna's effort is that she always includes audience in her world and invites us to it whenever she performs. That implies she includes audience in her mind as she spends countless hours on the ice going through the same routine over and over again preparing for her performances. That thoughtfulness, that consideration, I am thankful to her for that. And it shows in her performances and in the fact that even in her less perfect performances there is always something to remember the performance by.
ReplyDeleteBelow is the post I mentioned:
You may watch a singer, an actor, or a dancer performs and feel somehow inspired or even slightly touched, and may just think afterwards 'Pah, that's just a song/acting/dance, a show'. But you just might have forgot that it takes pure dedication, heart and guts to move an inch of people's mind. A nameless actor myself, I often wonder if it's really worthwhile to dedicate one's life for another an evening's entertainment of another person.
When I see Yuna's performance, I feel inspired and then my heart trembles, because I could imagine what hard work and blood and guts she must have given to achieve that sophisticated level of detail, flow, and expression.
I don't care whoever won the game or the well-known unfairness of ISU (not a new story anyway). But I was utterly sad to see Yuna crying on the podium today. She never showed that type of bitterness, even in her most difficult times of injuries or in the face of unjustice. I can't even imagine what her mind was going through.
Maria Callas, the soprano, said, "It takes sacrifice, love and dedication; one has to burn oneself out, there's no other way. And what's all that for? Life is hard. If our work could make people feel better, then all those work is worthwhile."
I send my warmest reagrds to Yuna, because it's so rare to meet a master, an artist in any given field, who is really ready to give.
sorry I meant "not disappointed"...
ReplyDeleteYuna got more points for her SP layback than Alissa. That was a gift from the judges that she didn't deserve. I think she's the best skater, but she wasn't at this competition.
ReplyDeleteRe:April 30, 2011 8:29 PM
ReplyDeleteShe's the best skater at this competition, but not her best.
Yuna didn't got enough GOE for her fooktwork and jumps, too. Even Miki and Leonova got more GOE than her. How do you think about that? Is it gift from judges too?
ReplyDeleteOne more thing. If Miki had 64 PCS, Yuna would have to 68 over.
Yuna is a goodwill ambassador for UNICEF. I think she is supposed to announce her donation as loud as she can so that it would inspire others to donate also.
ReplyDeleteYuna looked so tense during both her programs. Although I think her programs were beautiful, don't think I'll rewatch it much.
and someone please help me understand how Miki scored around 124 with a clean program at the Olympics but scored over 130 at this Worlds with the doubling, stepout, and no 3-3?
Maybe she isn't so bad, despite what Sandra Bezic said haha. Maybe I just don't see it in her because I'm so high on Yunacrack. But I gotta say this time the Yunacrack wasn't so strong.
It's hard to win a world championship with 2 single jumps. I guess Kim was in on the conspiracy too.
ReplyDeleteIf Kim skated better, she would have won.
She didn't.
Or would you have us believe that if she had skated the exact way she did in Vancouver, her scores would have been dozens of points lower?
Just watched Kim again as well. Liked it as much
ReplyDeleteYuna ia AMAZING & GRACEFUL & AWESOME !!
Amazing performance! looove this program
ReplyDeleteI am not one of the haters, I like YuNa and thought she absolutely deserved an Olympic gold medal, but this program underwhelmed me - even if she had skated it better I still don't think its one of her best.
ReplyDeleteShe should really get rid of the spiral.
The only program I really liked today was Alissa's (though absolutely LOVE the program Mao has been skating in exhibitions this year).
The only program I really liked today was YUNA KIM
ReplyDeleteOnce you decide to forget about the color of the medal, whose performance would you rather replay and watch again? Whose performance moves your heart? This long program is beatiful and graceful. Yuna still proved herself to be the best in the field.
ReplyDeletethe best free program of this season
ReplyDeleteI was disappointed for Giselle.
ReplyDeleteBut Arirang makes me certain that Kim has artistry I haven't seen among lady skaters since Kwan.
You are such an awesome figure skater. Pretty much the "Best". Go Yuna Kim!
ReplyDeleteOkay AJ, study hard!!! until ATS and yuna's reality skate tv show!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDelete;)
figure skating is gone. queen yuna is true chapmion.
ReplyDeleteJust one word: Meh.
ReplyDeletefigure skating is gone. queen yuna is true *champion
ReplyDelete"Once you decide to forget about the color of the medal, whose performance would you rather replay and watch again? Whose performance moves your heart? This long program is beatiful and graceful. Yuna still proved herself to be the best in the field."
ReplyDeleteYeah, popped jumps move my heart.
yuna just be happy forever
ReplyDeleteo lawdddddddddd
ReplyDeleteI hope Yuna (and other graceful female skaters who were treated unfairly by ISU) to retire. Then the sport named "figure skating" will soon collapse by the jumping beans who have no artistry.
ReplyDeletewho cares about ando? nobody!
ReplyDeleteLONG LIVE THE QUEEN! YUNA!
I don't know why people evaluate Yuna's performance by her previous "best" performance. If she make mistakes, cannot she win the competition? Do you think that all winners cleaned thier programs in last year? Yes, this is a competition. Therefore, even if Ando did her best performance, meanwhile, Yuna did her worst performance, if Yuna's performance is better than Ando's, Yuna should win the competition. That's the rule.
ReplyDeleteAbout Yuna's dress; I expected you guys who aren't Korean couldn't grasp its meaning:)
ReplyDeleteHer dress is designed based on traditional Korean ink-and-wash painting technique; which depicts nature in a black & white color.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/56596454@N08/5675243804/
It's so familiar and well known in our culture that I assume every Korean must have realized instantly what it was when Yuna unveiled her dress, without any need of further explanations.
Yuna's dress is aslo designed based on the folding screen picture that was always stood behind a king's seat.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/56596454@N08/5675266554/
The picture depicts 5 famous Korean mountains, river, sun and moon that represents Korea, Yin&Yang, 5 virtues that were considered priceless in Korean (and Asian) culture; benevolence, righteousness, propriety, wisdom and sincerity.
There are much more to this picture, but I think this much would be enough for you to understand the cultural background of Yuna's dress; which was greatly praised when unveiled among Korean people that she brought the most beautiful&exquisite dress that represents Korea, or Korean style.
yuna is winner. 100%
ReplyDeleteThank you for coming back to the competition with such beautiful and inspirational programs!! You were amazing!!
ReplyDeleteyuna!! yuna! yuna!! please don't go
ReplyDeletei want to see this program once more
I'm a bit uncomfortable about all the bitching on 'Yunabots'. True that some of them are over emotional and over protective, it's easy to blame when you don't know the history.
ReplyDeleteYou don't know what it is like to become the very first, with no understanding and support from the around and with no existing infrastructure available. Especially in the field like figureskating, which costs lots of money, requires good enough infra, and whose authority is famously inconsistent (if not unjust).
Many would only see Yuna in her present glory, who has it all and dose it all seemingly so easily, and call her 'queen' and 'arrogant'. But they are all very hard won, and I dare say, even harder than one from USA or Japan for example. 'She's a hack of competitor' said they? Gosh, she would have been long thrown away if she weren't.
I laugh at somebody commenting that judges are favouring Yuna, because at least for the most part of her career, that has been exactly the opposite. In 2008 Worldchamps, for example, many in the figureskating commented that Yuna was the true gold (she was given the bronze then) and blamed, yet again, ISU for its unjustice.
And her fans, 'Yunabots' as some of you despisingly call, had walked through all those with Yuna, and somewhat become inbittered and disillusioned about the whole figureskating business. They may look an overprotective mother, and that exactly are they, but for reasons and even for good reasons, possibly.
I hate the judges of the Worldchamps this time.
ReplyDeleteYu-na brought in such an inspiration into ladies figure last year, showing great athletism can be seamlessly combined with artistic quality.
As boring as the whole season may have been, one can see many more ladies trying more arms and upperbody movements and transitions between technical elements.
But just then ISU is giving more credit to those who just didn't fall or popped their jumps. I loved Leonova's FS in Russian national for example. But in the Worldchamps, she was just hoping not to fall down and skipped all the expressive elements, making that wonderful program completely washed out... and voilla, she got her new SB, I think?
Why do they bother with music and costume etc. at all then? One could just check who has higher and more fully rotating jumps then - by the way, I think Yu-na would still win then by a fair margin.
It's very depressing for the fans who were expecting to see a bit more artstry in the future.
OMG. Speechless. There is nothing to discuss. We should just keep our mouths shut and watch Yu-Na's beautiful program. I love this Arirang program much more than her Olympics LP. Back on the ice in 13months with those amazing two programs... Just WOW! What a brave girl..
ReplyDeleteAccording to the Korean press, Yu-Na had an injury on her right ankle. It was pretty bad enough to affect her free program. On the day of short program, she felt pain in her ankle during warm-up but she just skated because it was not that bad. She said that she told nothing about her pain because she didn't want to make it a lame excuse. Remember what happened back in 2008 Worlds when her back injury was publicly announced? She also hesitated to attend today's gala, but she just decided to skate. She is INDEED a brave girl. Judges should be ashamed of themselves. I know they love money, but still... it's no other than Queen Yu-Na. It would be much easier for them just to admit it. Why is it so hard for them?
ReplyDeleteoh my god..she is beautiful...and she hide her injury..and her videos been deleted by japanese...disgusting
ReplyDeleteThank you Yuna for those two exquisite programs on WC. Even though they weren't executed perfectly, I was so moved by them.
ReplyDeleteYuna!!!!Queen yuna
ReplyDelete여기오시는 한국분들..
ReplyDelete아무리 구글번역기를 돌리고 사전뒤져봤자
영어어색한거 다티나니까
제발 나라망신 선수망신 그만시키시고
한국블로그에서 노세요
부탁합니다
Oh Lord, as if Yuna vids aren't deleted deliberately ;)
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying stupid things like all japanese are bad, just pointing out the fact that Yuna vids ARE BEING DELETED from the Youtube, very frequently and deliberately. No need denying it.
Call me whatever bot you like, but it is a fact that there are threads about how to delete Yuna's Youtube vids efficiently in japanese website called 2channel.
여기오시는 한국분들..
ReplyDelete아무리 구글번역기를 돌리고 사전뒤져봤자
영어어색한거 다티나니까
제발 나라망신 선수망신 그만시키시고
한국블로그에서 노세요
부탁합니다222222
다 연아 생각해서 그러시는거 아는데 진짜 도움안되요
이건 뭔 잡소린가요
ReplyDelete영어 못하면 의견 말하는것도 안되나? 문화 사대주의에 찌들어선 창피한줄도 모르고..
위의 독일 등등 다른국적 사람들에게도 똑같이 말해보시죸ㅋㅋ
아주 웃기고 자빠졌네
So beautiful.. I am so touched with her dedicated program for her fans in Korea. I dont care about the color of the medal... It is well known that ISU expressed their gratitude and symphacy to Japanese people for their generous sponsorship and hardship from earthquake disaster... However, it is a stretch to put Miki Ando in to the first place.. She was neither elengant nor technically superior... To make figure skating more popular, we should have more skaters like Yuna.. She is the superstar and will be a direction to go..
ReplyDeleteI am just tired with dealing with stupid Jap money.. ISU you dont deserve the grestest skater in the history. Please live with boring Jap skater and Enjoy radioactive stuffs.
ReplyDeleteMay 1, 2011 12:32 PM
ReplyDelete제일처음 나라망신 시키지말라고 부탁드렸던사람입니다.
영어를 한국말보다 더많이 쓰고 한국인보다 미국인들을
더많이 상대하는 입장에서 한소리 하자면
단순히 사대주의에 쩔어서 웃기고자빠진게 아니라
니들이 나와서 살아보면 미국인들이 영어못하는 외국인들을
단순히 외국인이니까라고 결코너그럽게 이해해주지 않는다는것을 알게될껍니다.
그리고 댁영어가 평생 제대로교육받은 독일인들 영어랑
같은수준이라고 착각하는게 진짜 창피한줄모르시는거 같네요
댁들이 이런블로그에 앞뒤논리에도 안맞고 말도안되는 영어로
떠든다거나 어학연수랍시고 잠깐와서 하는행동들이
이나라에 평생살아야하는 사람들에게 얼마나 큰짐을 떠맡기고
가는지 알아주길바라는건 아니지만
내가한는 말이 잡소린지 댁이하는 말이 열등감과 근거없는
자신감에서 나오는 소린지 구분은할필요가 있어보이네요
So, why didn't Yuna bother to appear for the tribute to Japan part of the gala? There was no difficult skating required, she could have managed it even if she did have that "ankle injury"
ReplyDeleteQUEEN MIKI!!
ReplyDelete거기 위에 정말 거슬리네.. 나라망신은 당신이 시키고 있음. 한글을 잘아는 일본인이라고 믿고 싶을만큼. 뭐 미국인 상대 한거 맞는지 심히 의심스럽네
ReplyDeleteAt the end, figure skating fans remember masterpieces by skaters. Katarina Witt's Carmen, Alexei Yagudin's winter.. and Yuna's dance macabre/Gershwin concerto F... Arirang is so beautiful and has a lot of potential to be one of Yuna's masterpieces.. It is so sad that we would not see this great program again..
ReplyDelete"I am just tired with dealing with stupid Jap money.. ISU you dont deserve the grestest skater in the history. Please live with boring Jap skater and Enjoy radioactive stuffs."
ReplyDeleteAre you truly sincere not? It must be difficult to contain all this vitriol while pretending to be charitable towards disaster victims in Japan. You have deep-seated emotional/ psychological issues that need to be addressed....channelling hate/ obsession in all things Yuna will not work in the long run. You should get some counseling and possibly meds, you sound psychologically unstable from a biochemical perspective... I'm speaking as a Doctoral student in Biochemistry/ Cell Metabolism. Seriously, get some help before you shoot up a mall or something.
For you idiot Korean Yunabots posting in Korean, go back to your own Korean forums if you're going to do so. You guys do realize the more you rant, the more you 'poison' Yuna's skating for the rest of us true FS fans? Yuna is losing fans because of lunatics like you, and nothing you say will win them back, understand?
I wish Yuna would retire so that we don't have to deal with Yunabots whose "love" of skating is as deep as a puddle of fake tears. The verbal diarrhea that you're spewing matches the constipation of intellect and tact that you are suffering from.
Hey sorry for Japanese people for their tragedy... However, please do not build any nuclear plant in your country.. It is reckless to build them on land with so many earth quakes and tsunami.. I live in the west coast and radioactive iodine and cesium materials have been detected from tap water and milk... Anywhere in the world is not safe. Hope Japanese can contain the issue ASAP and dont spread any harm to any other countries.. S
ReplyDeleteYou really need to seek your own shrink. You are a racist. Mind your own biz plz."
ReplyDeleteI wish I had a lower IQ so that I could see things from your perspective, alas there isn't an IQ that low so I guess it's not meant to be.
This blog is in ENGLISH, so I'm saying if you feel compelled to post in Korean then do so on a Korean blog....how hard is it to comprehend this basic idea? Oh wait, I forgot that you have the IQ of a gnat, for that I'm very sorry.
I bet I have better IQ than you have. You are trying to insult other people.. at the end.. it is YOU who got insulted... Which school are you attending??? Dont they teach ethics class? Dont they have Anti-Harassment Guideline? You must attend Podunk University.. Truely, you dont deserve PhD degree.
ReplyDeletehave you guys seen cinquanta bowing to yu-na kim at the podium...?
ReplyDelete"I bet I have better IQ than you have. You are trying to insult other people.. at the end.. it is YOU who got insulted... Which school are you attending??? Dont they teach ethics class? Dont they have Anti-Harassment Guideline? You must attend Podunk University.. Truely, you dont deserve PhD degree."
ReplyDeleteOh dear....you really ARE taking this seriously, oh well just as I thought, you are indeed in dire need of some strong psych meds.
I only insult people who deserve my insults, I'm talking about biased and hate-filled Yunabots like yourself who hijack innocuous posts about Yuna, and in turn create havoc for those of us attempting to have insightful conversations with each other about Yuna and FS in general.
At this point it's clear to me that you're a masochist who enjoys getting insulted and thus keeps coming back for more. I was just trying to half provoke you, so to speak, with our little tete a tete here. I didn't know you guys take things SOOO seriously....get a sense of humor okay? But in the end, you're not giving anything substantial to work with, you see it's nearly impossible to carry on a debate or verbal tit for tat with someone so ill-equipped intellectually as you seem to be.
So I'm going to be kind and just leave your one, solitary brain cell alone, it's obviously taken enough hits today. That way you can continue to sit and worship at the altar of Yuna all day long. Peace out and please lighten up, it's no healthy to be so angry and serious...now THAT is a scientific fact.
Hey Fake PhD candidate @ Podunk University
ReplyDeleteGrow up and Get a life! Stop typing from Japan.. I can smell radioactive iodine/cesium from your thread. Get a very good health life insurance to cover your medical cost when you get cancer in your life.
Sick of Japanese fans.. who comes to see Yuna Kim's performance and mocking her innocent fans!! Why dont you spend your energy to watch your Miki or Mao??? You are not doing any good to your favorite skaters? You are putting shits for them... Arent you same on yourselves?
ReplyDeleteWell, Yu-Na definitely wins in the competition of most unhinged fans. I wish I could say I can't believe some of the comments I'm reading, but really, I'm not surprised.
ReplyDelete"At this point it's clear to me that you're a masochist who enjoys getting insulted and thus keeps coming back for more. I was just trying to half provoke you, so to speak, with our little tete a tete here. I didn't know you guys take things SOOO seriously....get a sense of humor okay? But in the end, you're not giving anything substantial to work with, you see it's nearly impossible to carry on a debate or verbal tit for tat with someone so ill-equipped intellectually as you seem to be"
ReplyDeleteYou sure do not understand the concept of Harrasment. Let me give you a lesson.
Harassment covers a wide range of offensive behaviour. It is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset, and it is characteristically repetitive. In the legal sense, it is intentional behaviour which is found threatening or disturbing.
Whatever you said about me, I dont give a damn.
You are commiting a crime. You are a racist and harassing other people. You said you just joked??? That's a crime, dude!
It is simple. If you dont like Yuna and dont liker her fans, skip and read the next thread. Do not waste your time and effort in here. There are many interesting and great posting at this site...
ReplyDeleteTo PhD candidate @ Podunk University
ReplyDeleteDid you pass qualifying exam? Did you finish proposal and defense? I am really worried.. With current job market, dont you need to try to find a job rather than wasting time here?
Are you Yunabots for real? Are you seriously bringing up the devastation in Japan over Miki Ando winning the world title instead of Yuna? This is ridiculous. It's FIGURE SKATING folks. I don't see any of Miki's fans (or Mao's for that matter) saying anything like "Well, I hope Kim Jong Il takes over South Korea" or "Hope you all become Commies within the next year". Ugh, just ugh.
ReplyDeleteIMO you all need to be locked up in a psychiatric ward, sedated monitored heavily, and released when Yuna officially retires (which I hope is soon so I don't have to read any of this bullshit anymore). The way you crazed fans act is absolutely appalling and, to be honest, embarrassing for the sport. I used to love Yuna, that is, until you ubers came along and ruined her skating for me and countless others.
Let's hope Mirai comes back strong next year and kicks her ass, girl's got all the goods to be a champ. All she needs are nerves of steel (which she showed she has at 4CC).
"IMO you all need to be locked up in a psychiatric ward, sedated monitored heavily, and released when Yuna officially retires (which I hope is soon so I don't have to read any of this bullshit anymore). The way you crazed fans act is absolutely appalling and, to be honest, embarrassing for the sport. I used to love Yuna, that is, until you ubers came along and ruined her skating for me and countless others"
ReplyDeleteWatch your mouse. You dont have right to lock up all people who have different opinion from yours... You need to relax and stop cursing to someone else. I advise you not to watch Yuna's video.. As you said, you dont like bullshit? Why do you bother to argue with your so called Yunabots?
Mirai to be a 4CC champ??? You are dreaming of something impossible.
ReplyDeleteI bet you want Yuna to retire officially not because of her fans. She is so threatening and continue to win titles over your favorite skaters.. I just saw a post that Yuna will compete next season. Perhas not all of grand prix series but some of major events... Sorry that you are disappointed.. Queen will continue to compete.
ReplyDeleteCome on... Let's stop stupid argument.. We are here to watch Yuna's performance.. If you dont like hers, just click back button and move on.
ReplyDeleteYuna You are so lovely.. This is one of your best programs. Can we see this program again next year or so?
Hey! fake shrink, it's not fans but jap money that is ruining figure skate.
ReplyDeleteAsada was pcs queen then, now is a jumping bean with no emotion.
Who's gonna be the next pcs queen? I think it will be Murakami or Risa. We'll see that nonsesnce soon.
Sure does seem like Yunafans suffer from Histrionic and Borderline personality disorders. What a pity.
ReplyDeleteIt is boring.. When will you stop talking about what you heard from you psychiatrist? What a loser...
ReplyDeleteDont you have any reasonable and sound arguement other than accusing Yuna fan as mentally ill?
ReplyDeleteI think he is a jap shrink. You should take care of the mental state of Japs. Japs never apologized their war crimes to Asians. you remember Nanking massacre?
ReplyDeleteIt was a mass murder and war rape that occurred during the six-week period following the Japanese capture of the city of Nanjing (Nanking), the former capital of the Republic of China, on December 13, 1937 during the Second Sino-Japanese War.
During this period, up to hundreds of thousands of Chinese civilians and disarmed soldiers were murdered and 20,000–80,000 women were raped[1] by soldiers of the Imperial Japanese Army.