In figure skating, it is often said that your placement or World Ranking is how you deserved to finish the year before. That means, every skater needs to demonstrate consistency to the judges. There is year you arrive as an up-and-comer and hit and then the next year you collect your medal haul. Call it paying your dues. Johnny Weir's problem? He couldn't back it up. Johnny was hot in the scene in 2001-2002, but problems with the USFSA, withdrawals from the Grand Prix, off-ice distractions and failure to train made all of us who supported him suffer from the nerves of Masha. We needed a drink and it better have been a double. In 2004-2005, he finally climbed the World rank but a foot injury hindered him at Worlds. The judges still held him up and gave him a top ranking. The door was wide open for Johnny to land on every podium...and then he got media attention.
His Slutskaya love was beyond difficult to swallow and defend.
Does anyone else remember the white knuckling of Kwan's Hip Injury + Johnny's GP season + Relying on Sasha to be our Gold Medal Hope?! There is always a reason when someone is purely a short program skater at any point in their career...
"My aura was black and I missed the bus."
The Mid-Program Smoke Break
Backing Up The "I hate spinning" comment.
It was total heartbreak. I actually really liked Children of Nazareth. It is such a shame that it was never skated remotely close to his potential. We know from Pop Star On Ice that Nationals was probably the only time he ever actually did a full run through.
That isn't even bringing up his refusal to do three jump combos, Tara Modlin, jetting to Asia right before Nationals, chain smoking, crazed dieting or speaking out against his country's top judge. Lovely lovely skater, but infuriating as hell. A total Sasha Cohen. Those years they took off our lives don't come back.
I'm so happy that this is tagged "Smack Sasha Moment".
ReplyDeleteHe had the world at his finger tips those seasons. Every door was wide open for him. It was such a shame and so infuriating to live through.
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ReplyDeleteI love Johnny Weir, and I love this post AJ. I think it was so needed. People need to realize certain things about Johnny's career. How difficult it was to watch as he continually failed to live up to his potential. He was always so close to REAL glory in this sport. I don't always agree with you but I do respect your opinions and sometimes you make me see things a bit differently than I had. JW fans of this new era need to calm down. Frankly, it's embaressing. We're not all that way ;) To be fair, they really do love him and don't want ppl to think ill of him... I get that. I don't want that either. However, the lengths to which are gone to sometimes are a bit crazy. Before JW fans start pouring in here with exclamation points flying about this post: Stop and just listen to what Dave's saying. Respect opinions that are different from your own. This is HIS blog and if you don't like what he says... start your own and maybe you can come up with a completely different Johnny history where he actually trained like an elite athlete ought to at the peak of his career and thus won the glory that was due him.
I would also like to say that I support the guy to this day. Have seen him twice this year and have nothing but love and affection for him. I love him for the beauty he brings to the ice and will always appreciate that aspect of his career and talent. I wish things had turned out differently for him. I hope he can find a way to harness his crazy into somethiing good for him in this new point in his life.
Thanks again for the post! It's not the happiest of topics but it's real :)
I really think Johnny should have gone to worlds this year. The field was open for him to get a medal, and he would have got MORE fame from it. a two time world medalist is much more appealing to shows than a one time medalist. It would have been a little extra boost for his fame campaign.
ReplyDeleteBut again. probs too much effort etc.
yea, he really should have gone. He did all this work to "not have any regrets" and right at the finish line he pulled out. I'd thought he was sick of having all these "what if's" throughout his career and that he would just suck it up and do it. oh well. He wanted to play in LA instead of pushing through. He's just a person. A person who makes bad choices sometimes like we all do. It's just a shame he makes the same ones over and over again. Like right when it REALLY matters... he drops the ball. Oh well. I still love him.
ReplyDeleteI doubt Johnny could have medalled at Worlds. Even skating the exact same as he did at the Olympics, I don't think he would have been on the podium, whether or not you think those performances would have deserved to be, given how everyone else skated. I guess no one really predicted that Joubert would skate as well as he did given his Vancouver performance, but as deep as the men's field has been, there were plenty of other choices to play spoiler in the same way, and Patrick Chan is... Patrick Chan. Going would have been pretty pointless, and would have taken the shine off of his Olympic performances, if he hadn't skated up to them. I just wish he'd let them stand for themselves without commentary.
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ReplyDeleteAgree with what you said but have two questions, what problems was Johnny having with the usfs in 2001-2002 and what was the real reason he pulled out of his 2003 grand prix events?
ReplyDeleteWhile it's true that Johnny never reached what most people feel was his "potential", he did give some stunningly beautiful performances along the way. It's a shame that some folks feel the need to dwell on the negative.
ReplyDeleteWell said. For anyone not sick of seeing Johnny on TV yet he will be appearing on the Rachael Zoe Project on Bravo this season. personally, I'm not looking forward to this... more crazy outfits and red carpet whoring.
ReplyDeleteThis is the post I want to write when Johnny unofficially retired from competitive figure skating. Don't get me wrong - I adore Johnny. I started following figure skating regularly after I accidentally watched him win Nationals in 2005... but, you know, being a Johnny fan over the years has been really, really difficult. It's hard to stick by someone who blames his Olympic FS disaster on "being in a dark place" or who comes out and says that he is done with the sport after every bad season.
ReplyDeleteIt's one of the reasons that I'm glad Johnny skated two relatively clean performances in Vancouver. I wish he had fucked up that spin, but otherwise... at least he ended his career skating well. So, cheers, good post.
The more Johnny fame whores with the likes of Rachael Zoe and other reality show hos, the more ridiculous he comes across to longtime fans such as myself. I understand that he dresses outrageously just to get mentioned in magazines or talk shows, but it comes across as ridiculous. Chasing after brief, marginalized celebrityhood or notoriety will only damage his image in the long run.
ReplyDeleteI don't want to see him trolling the lowly reality show fame whore circuit in years to come, jostling for the few slots open for him and his ilk. I don't want to see him transforming into RuPaul-lite or be a caricature of himself in order to keep his tenuous grasp of fame.
The whole Skate Canada 2005 through Skate Canada 2006 just shows how much drama he always had around him. Always some incident: skipping out on jumping passes, tripping on footwork sequences, leaving out choreography due to sudden "injury", etc. Every time things didn't go perfect, I think it was pretty clear that he became disoriented and had to really figure out where he was at in his programs. He obviously wasn't well-trained, and it's annoying and extremely frustrating that he didn't even try to act like he hadn't given up once those points happened.
ReplyDeleteHow many times was he ''sick'' at competitions?
ReplyDeleteReally a new perspective ... I'm a "new" fan, really didn't start following him with any regularity till Vancouver. I can see and agree with everything you're saying here, Dave. He doesn't fit the "elite athlete" profile. And watching the scattered, disorganized fame-whoring is becoming a bit cringe-worthy, IMHO. Would be nice if he'd find one thing and stick with it ... but hey, he is only 26.
ReplyDeleteReally good post ... again, I'm "new" here and it seems like you get various rations of shit from certain JGW fan bases, but I see nothing at all off base about what you say here. I've been thinking it since March but don't have your gift with the written word!
OlympicEffect said... "How many times was he ''sick'' at competitions?"
ReplyDeleteWhy is "sick" in quotation marks? Maybe I'm misreading this, but are you trying to imply that he wasn't actually sick at competitions when he claimed to be? If so, you are completely contradicting your earlier statements on the subject. You stated previously (in the blog that you deleted) that Johnny was constantly sick because his shitty diet and chain smoking screwed up his immune system. So which is it? Either he made bad choices that fucked up his immune system, or he's a lying bastard who was never actually "sick" and only pretended to be (hospital stays aside). You can't have it both ways.
He seriously smokes? Wow.
ReplyDeleteI'm an "old" fan and really can't argue with anything you've illustrated here. But this year he did seem to buckle down and train, and his programs were wonderful and well-executed. Even so, by his own words he "left things out." Or was it his coach who changed Wilson's choreography, and why did he let her....why? Also, what was he thinking when he criticized that judge (Inman?) just before the Olys? Sad words...it might have been. But he has given us a lot of beauty and that I will remember.
ReplyDeleteThumbs up AJ! Didn't find this post to be snarky at all and I tend to not like your blogs. This right here, it proves why you do care. You are pretty much saying all along, "Hey kid! Wake up! You have the whole world in your hands now. Not many people have what you got. Grab it by the fucking balls!"
ReplyDeleteI love Johnny, but it's been a bittersweet experience. I hope he regains some sort of passion again in whatever he wants and just lives truthfully. His delusions of grandeur will only make him bitter in the long run. :(
lisainrva: Yes. A picture of him with Rachel Zoe shows him holding a cigarette, but I've heard about this in the past by others. I don't know about the chain smoking.
ReplyDeletelisainrva said... "He seriously smokes? Wow."
ReplyDeleteYes, he smokes. But I don't know that he "chain smokes". I've been a fan for almost 5 years, and I've seen thousands of candid pics of him. In only 2 of those pics was he holding a cigarette.
Also, it should be noted that lots of skaters smoke. It helps control the appetite.
@ JadedRose: Oh, it does do that! I completely need to quit but don't want to gain the inevitable 10 lbs. The rational side of me realizes that 10 lbs would be a lot easier on my heart that these GD cigarettes, but what can ya do?
ReplyDeleteI'm always surprised when I hear an athlete smokes, though. Just seems so... ack, I don't know.
Agreed with everything in this post. Even as a new fan, the tragic trajectory of his career was obvious to me as soon as I hit youtube. Just watching his SP at the 2006 Olympics and the LP right after will tell you everything you need to know. What could have been haunts me. :( I think the boy needed a sports psychologist badly, something I don't think anyone in his inner circle realized or cared to acknowledge. Clearly he had nerves, and couldn't stomach full run throughs probably because he was scared that messing up would further screw up his shitty mindset (along with the obvious laziness). There's this one part in BGJW where Patti Weir says something like "Not everyone needs a sports psychologist." I love you Patti, but no, Johnny needed one BADLY. It's infuriating all around. He had such potential but is and probably will continue to be a trainwreck. And the hilarious part, it's what makes him so immensely relatable to me. He's just such a headcase. As a fellow headcase, I can't help but like him anyway. I still cringe at the shitty show performances though. *sigh*
ReplyDeleteOkay, AJ, now that you made me cry, can you post some of Johnny's best performances as a palate cleanser? Pretty please?
ReplyDeleteI appreciate this bit of history, by the way. I only follow skating at the Olympics and sometimes at other televised major competitions. As for Johnny, I fell in love with him because of his Olympic performances this year; I thought he was just beautiful and watching him gave me joy. I really feel disappointed for him that he did not walk away from the competition with a medal--yup, I cried about that, too. But the challenge for these skaters to remember is that their performance is all about them, but the competition is about every athlete's performance--and it struck me that the men skaters were a particularly fabulous group this year. (Is that true, AJ and other skating expert?) Johnny's skate was the one that sung to me, but I recognize that there were many other great skates in the competition as well.
It seems that Johnny is dealing with his disappointment at not winning a medal (that's what all Olympians want, right? To me it would seem like such a honor to be there at all, but I don't have an athlete's mindset) by doing pretty much any project that comes along. I think, in part, it is a distraction to avoid dealing with his emotions about the Olympic games. As I'm not a fan of fashion or reality shows, I cringe every time I see him taking on yet another project, but I know he has a lot of fans who enjoy his forays into these other areas as well.
I just don't know how he can be writing book when he is constantly on the road. Because I am a writer and know how hard it is for an ordinary slob to get published, I feel he should be focusing on that project more. As is, he seems to be dabbling here and there and everywhere. His management should be steering him away from that approach, but it seems to me that Ms. Modlin encourages it and benefits from it as well. Every time I see her in a picture with him I cringe--agents aren't supposed to be so visible!
The men were particularly strong this year. They were also strong and deep in 2006. Johnny was more physically suited to medalling in 2006. if you watch his stroking and skating, everything was faster, more natural, pure. He looked slower, tired and labored under Galina...even when he was training. With a little more training and intestinal fortitude, Johnny could've been 2006 or 2007 World Champion. From watching his documentary, his talent is obvious....as well as his training issues. His jumps were much better under Priscilla. I tend to think that Galina got a bit lucky with Oksana and Viktor. Both were headcases who lucked out at the right moment.
ReplyDelete"Okay, AJ, now that you made me cry, can you post some of Johnny's best performances as a palate cleanser? Pretty please?"
ReplyDeleteOh pretty please. Feel free to point out what was good in these particular performances. So we can learn to see. I still like Johnny very much.
AJ: Thank you for your response! I usually favor the ladies' skating, but this year, it was all about the boys for me, and when the men's competition was over, I just wanted 'em all to come back (well, maybe except for the guy in the Skeletor costume) and skate again.
ReplyDeleteI'll keep your observations in mind (re Priscilla and Galina) when I look at videos.
Oh, please, give it a rest! If you are disappointed by Johnny and his skating or other activities, deal with it like a grown up. Casting blame on Johnny or anyone else for one's own disappointments is fruitless.
ReplyDeleteJohnny, like all of us is perfectly human and given to making mistakes. Despite the power and beauty of his skating, the awesomeness of his genius, his physical beauty, wonderful personality, charisma, he is unfailingly human.
Johnny, like all other creative geniuses has to struggle with the vagaries of that genius while at once is powerful, it is also whimsical and unpredictable. Creative genius is not always a gift, it can sometimes be a great burden.
Regardless of how many medals he's won (quite a few actually), or not won, Johnny's skating is some of the most uniquely beautiful I've ever seen since I began paying attention to figure skating in 1960. Johnny, himself, is also one of the most fun and intriguing figure skaters to come along in that time.
I may not like everything he does, or every costume, etc. but so what? It is his life. He gets to live it and I don't need to dis him for living his life the way he sees fit.
Aunty J, you really should be fair and talk about Johnny's successes, you know.
Aunty J isn't going to post about the positive. That's not the issue, is it?
ReplyDeleteI hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Johnny's tendencies towards immature behavior and the like will continue as long as he continues to hang around immature and irresponsible friends; who by the way were in NO way his friends until long after 2006. You tend to become the company you keep. So if Johnny is lazy, a smoker, a drinker, a partier, a drug addict, a lush; all you have to do is look at his circle of "friends"; the very people who control and ABSORB all of his time; the people who are literally right there under his feet all of the time and the very people who are doing absolutely nothing to help him achieve any real success at all. How is playing stupid Mario Kart going to help Johnny get or keep a real job, much less help Johnny to carve out and keep a career??? It sure as hell WILL NOT help him keep a roof over his head, dearies.
Dingles claim they care so much for Johnny. Then, why don't they give a rat's ass about his further success? I know why. Because no dingle on record has or enjoys any success. They're not famous, and so they are going to do whatever it takes to pull Johnny DOWN where they are. It's human nature. Can't allow him to rise to the top, can they. No, because it will make them look like failures. And neither can Tara because she failed at skating, too. Someone even stated that Tara admitted to this failure. Tara admitted that through her own laziness and lack of concern, she failed. People with that kind a "track record" tend to pull others down with them because MISERY LOVES COMPANY. At least Galina, Priscilla, Viktor and his wife all have formidible, proven track records of success. Before Johnny, what track record did Tara have. Before Johnny, what was her claim to fame. Anyone? What did she do BEFORE Johnny?
Johnny is NOT currently in GOOD COMPANY. He is in extreme danger and should watch his back with regards to Yente and HER dingles. Every friend Johnny has, every professional contact he has, Tara has created it and CONTROLS it and CONTROLS his every move through them. She's playing a very dangerous game; like the game controller in Dangerous Liasons. Joey came in through Tara; Eric came in through Tara; Carin came in through Tara; Tara knew Paris before Johnny did and Paris had this circle of friends; and they all report back to Tara with regards to Johnny. Johnny is on meds for pain and God only knows what else; so how can someone under so much medication be truly and solely responsible for his own actions and reactions? It's like asking a rape victim to be responsible when they are drugged. It's not logical.
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ReplyDeletelaura linger said...One thing I would like to say: on what planet is 26 considered to be "young"? That's a common excuse given for Johnny's behavior. Then I think of how I was at 26 and I just don't get it. I realize that everyone is different, and that everyone achieves on their own schedule, but can we stop propagating this notion that "poor Johnny" is a mere babe in the woods? He isn't.
ReplyDelete26 is still considered a very young age HERE, on planet Earth. It's a transitional period in the average lifespan of every HUMAN on this planet. What Johnny CHOOSES to do or NOT to do within this and the next year WILL direct his path for the next 10-15 years on average. It will set the stage for success or complete failure in everything. Look at case studies. He needs to be surrounded by people who give a shit; not paid performers who are actually friends of Tara's and nothing more.
Johnny is not a "poor babe in the woods"; he is a "poor babe in the woods jacked up on high meds and is made to be weak and vulnerable" and that makes a difference. He seriously needs to break totally away from Tara, the dingles, his fans, his associates (no twitter, no FB, no cell, no phone, no contact whatsoever) and hang completely and totally and ONLY with FAMILY (not "like family"), right now; and I hope this is what he does during his vacation. This is the ONLY way he will clear his head and come to his OWN CONCLUSIONS without any outside, unnecessary influence.
Why are anonymous posters allowed to make completely unfounded accusations about drug abuse? That's crossing a line, AJ. Enough is enough.
ReplyDeleteI read that Evan has to take pain meds just to get out of bed in the morning due to his hip, no secret that most elite skaters depend on some sort of pain meds on and off the ice. And Johnny has made no secret of his use of Ambien to sleep, insomnia runs in his family.
ReplyDeletebut those are the only drugs that Jwe takes, other then antibiotics for his frequent sinus infections.
ReplyDeleteJohnny does take meds for pain management and something else that I am not going to repeat here. Tara is trying hard to fix Johnny up with so-called famous designers who are small potatoes when compared to the real thing and 250 or more for a pair of shades when all she does is get designer glasses and decorate them with glitter and crystals is stupid. My five year old neice can do that. It's a kiddie art project. Nothing special. That was Tara or Nicole behind the camera today. Push. Push. Push. Hope some of Johnny's "we get paid to love him" fans enjoy their 800 or more allowance from Yente and her dingles.
ReplyDeleteDon't. Sunglass is way too into self. See who she takes pics of? JWe is a homebody straight up. Needs homebase. She is a playa from way back. Did you not see her hash? #pavlov Hello, DAWG. A Tara set-up that's gonna fall. Heard she got pd by Tara 800 plus. With JWe buyin that makes her rent I guess. Word: If she and JWe f*&c then she is suppose to tell Tara everything. Sick.
ReplyDeleteIf you're a Johnny fan, it must be hard to see him doing all this weird, pseudo-celebrity stuff now. And the smoking? I think it's sad for any young person to smoke, but for an athlete, it's extra sad.
ReplyDeleteI'd rather watch him trip into the boards and withdraw than watch him party with some crazies in NY.
Regardless of all of the dissing you many "anonymous" posters are doing.... It is still his life. Not yours.
ReplyDeleteSadly, it is true that some of the most brilliant artists with the most wonderful potential crash and burn. Will that be the case for Johnny? None of us really knows. None of us know what his life walk is about, therefore we can not make any judgements about his activities. Again I say, if you have a problem with he is doing, it is your problem not his.
Someone here, Olympic Effect, perhaps, says he knows someone who works for Tara. Is this person the source of all that several of you claim to know? If so, how do you know it is truth? I've been around a long time.
I've seen plenty of people make up BS about co-workers, bosses, and even their friends. Why? Sadly it is often because they thrive on the chaos that ensues, and love being at the center of the storm, getting attention for being "the source" of all kinds of supposedly observed nasties.
Regarding pain meds and pain management. For all of you casting aspersions on Johnny or anyone else for taking pain meds, let me say this, I hope none of you ever have to deal with chronic unremitting pain. You would not be so condemning or flippant if you did. As for any other medication Johnny may take, lots of folks have health problems that require medical intervention via medication. Health problems are not a personal failing. They are medical issues. Some are mental health issues, but still have a strong neurochemical component that involves incorrect functioning of particular areas of the brain. Again, not a personal failing but a real medical issue and problem.
I would say that the majority of the comments I read here are fear based, i.e. fear of Johnny's failure; and anger based, i.e. anger at him for not behaving in a way particular commentators think he should. Fear and anger are decent emotions, but again the responsibility of the person experiencing to deal with.
I don't know, though. Maybe you all just really do get off on character assassination. If so, I find that to be much worse than anything anyone could say about Johnny.
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ReplyDeletePersonally, I will be so very happy when Johnny's fans stop behaving as though they alone KNOW what Johnny's dreams are when in fact they have ABSOLUTELY NO idea. I could go into detail, but why bother. There's Jenn, Ren, Heather, and others who just need to stop and think for a moment. They are claiming that this person on FB needs to realize that Johnny lives outside her dreams; but these same people fail to realize that Johnny also lives outside of THEIR dreams, too. Further, these fans often take it upon themselves to go all ninja (out of some weird, twisted jealousy really) on another fan; so in fact it is they who become the trouble-makers.
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I normally don't go here, but all I know is I find it very strange how all the nasty comments about Johnny have surfaced since the recent LP show and ever since a certain up and coming artist (who I know now will work with a Grammy award-winning artist & good for her) showed up. I saw and heard everything from many different angles after the show. The low level to which some people will stoop is beyond belief. Funny how some people honestly think they have the right to act this way cuz they "KNOW" Tara, they "KNOW" Eric, they "KNOW" Joey, they "KNOW" Binky, they "KNOW" so-and-so; so it's very clear that what we have here are too many people, friends and fans alike POWER-TRIPPIN cuz of their degree of separation from Johnny. The artist managed to look and smell as good as she did (awesome) on just three hours of sleep within a 48 hour or more period. She didn't put on any airs nor did she act like she expected anything from anyone. And what was Tara whispering into the blonde side-kick's ear whom she was standing beside upon seeing this artist for the second time? So Tara knew her but didn't say hi and instead chose to whisper something. What's going on here? Good or bad? Why doesn't someone somewhere have the courage to post something instead of acting like cowards? What I saw was disgusting to watch as some people ("fans" of Johnny) whispered behind her back with unwarranted disdain. So, it's obvious that someone has an opinion but no one is saying anything; but the only way to exercise YOUR DEMONS is to call them out in the open so I guess that's what I'm doing here and now; unless you are comfortable living with your twisted, evil thoughts and jealousy. The evil you say or do to correct what you JUDGE to be "wrong" reflects poorly and badly upon YOU; not the object of your poor, unwarranted and misplaced judgement. YOU ARE NOT GOD!
ReplyDeleteThe music award show season is about to get underway. I hope that when Johnny's fans see this artist on the red carpet that they will choke on their on spit and be forced to swallow their own hatred RAW.
Did you know that if someone uses UBERTWITTER and a Blackberry cell phone, they can follow you and track you everywhere you go from anywhere in the world??? Anywhere you travel??? That's what I saw sunglass person (kerin) doing to Johnny Weir a little over an hour ago!!! CREEPY STALKER!!! Johnny please be careful!!!
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't worry too much about that. This is going to get very old, very quick and fizzle. When the money is no longer there, krsunglass will have no choice but to fall off the radar and stop her game cold. Remember Dangerous Liasons? This is all devised by Tara to drive another alpha female out of play (another female in whom Johnny has, has had and continues to show very KEEN interest and in whom Johnny shares a GREAT DEAL in common, and this IS to the delight of one Patti Weir!).
ReplyDeleteLaura Linger -- You have absolutely NO right to say a freaking word about "hysterical fanatical fans". You started out as an uber Johnny lover (BTW, really enjoyed that blog post you wrote about wanting to both fuck AND mother Johnny. So presh). For whatever reason (probably a much needed restraining order from Team Johnny) you now hate his guts with a vengeance. Whatever. You are BY FAR the most "hysterical fanatical fan" I've come across in my 5 years of Johnny fandom, so you need to sit the hell down.
ReplyDeleteAlso, you've posted some of the most ridiculous anonymous posts in this thread. You're the only person I've ever seen who refers to Tara as "Yente". If you're going to try and pass your shit off as anonymous, at least be clever enough to switch up your lingo. Otherwise, people with REAL access to Johnny and his team may decide to inform them that you're making hurtful, unfounded accusations about him.
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ReplyDeleteLaura -- I don't think I'm the one who needs to "get help". You are clearly obsessed with Johnny, evidenced by your comments in this blog (and if you expect people to believe you've never posted here anonymously, then you really are crazy. I'm not the first person to call you out on it.) But more importantly, you made so many hateful, bat-shit crazy comments about Johnny on ontd_skating that you were banned from that forum.
ReplyDeleteNice try!
Ms. Linger, Whilst you are correct in your statement regarding "having an opinion" that doesn't agree with another's is not a form of character assassination. I never said it is. But calling others names could be considered such and name calling is something you seem to revel in, i.e. "hysterical fans" as one example.
ReplyDeleteOne can express one's opinion without taking another's inventory or name calling.
There is a tremendous amount of commentary going on here that in the very least is character assassination. That may or may not be the intention, doesn't matter. The chatter still meets the criteria below:
"In practice, character assassination may involve doublespeak, spreading of rumors, innuendo or deliberate misinformation on topics relating to the subject's morals, integrity, and reputation. It may involve spinning information that is technically true, but that is presented in a misleading manner or is presented without the necessary context." ~ wikipedia
Jaded Rose, thank you for your comments:-)
ReplyDeleteMs. Linger you have apparently now been kicked off of two boards. I'm thinkin' that in the midst of your busyness pointing a finger at others, you best be paying attention to the three fingers pointing back at you!
As for the rest of the folks here, so busy posting all kinds of rumor and innuendo, just who and what are your sources? Are you courageous enough & willing to stand behind what you are saying by posting your name? Or, are you just into mud slinging?
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ReplyDeleteLaura ... You weren't just "made to feel unwelcome" on LJ so don't front. Your posts on that forum were very scary and dark-sided. You came across as wishing actual harm on Johnny to the point that people were afraid for his safety. That's not the same thing as just "having a different opinion". There are lots of posters on LJ who make fun of Johnny and take him to task for some of his decisions. But you were the only one who was ever truly scary.
ReplyDeleteWhy, AJ??? Why??? Just when things were calming down :-) 3 National Champonships and a world medal is nothing to sneeze at, but Johnny could have done so much more. In my opinion, he is artistically better than Evan, and equal technically, when he lands his jumps. Evan has 2 National Championships, 3 world medals (1 gold), and the OGM because he put the work in. Johnny is a beautiful skater with wasted potential as an Olympic, elite athlete.
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ReplyDeleteWho is Binky?? Johnny wished her a happy birthday yesterday via twitter but her website directs you to a religious oriented band and she doesn't even live within driving distance of Johnny.
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ReplyDeleteI'm not a big fan of either of those blogs--they are usually too promotional for my taste. How much free PR does Johnny need? Are these bloggers on the payroll, or just hoping to be?
ReplyDeleteI followed a link on the FB page that quoted Johnny as saying he was working on a skating show that would include strippers and porn stars. If that's true, he is being managed/advised by morons. Why publicize yourself as being outraged at being not considered "family friendly"--only to show you are actually not? Johnny, you need to think about this show very carefully. Stay classy. Let all your ventures be as classy as your skating. Strippers and porn stars will turn off a lot of people, me included, and I'm no prude.
BTW, if Evan Lysacek really made that tweet that's going around the boards, he is a total creep and should be reprimanded by the Olympic committee, IMO.
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ReplyDelete"BTW, if Evan Lysacek really made that tweet that's going around the boards, he is a total creep and should be reprimanded by the Olympic committee, IMO."
ReplyDeleteHe did, and yes he should. This blog sums it up nicely:
http://gendertestthis.wordpress.com/2010/08/07/olympic-gold-medalist-shows-his-true-colors/
Binky, to answer the question, writes the Misfits Mimes blog. She started out as a regular fan, but has been, uh, cultivated by Tara to the point where she is a reliable mouthpiece.
ReplyDeleteTo Jaded Rose: In reality, if you DARE to read their Twitters; Mary Beth, Frenchie and Alicia TRULY want to *fuck and mother* Johnny Weir; as you and others so elequently put it. Frenchie thinks she's hot shit now that Johnny's brother has replied to her. The only reason why Frenchie is befriending Boz is to try and get Mary Beth (hello STALKER) closer to Johnny. Hopefully, Boz will soon understand this and drop Frenchie's so-called "friendship". This dynamic of Eric being introduced into Johnny's life started with Tara and will end when Johnny has had enough. I cannot wait for Johnny to fire those within his so-called inner circle, and hire only those who can handle the heat. It's going to happen sometime this fall and winter because things just are not going the way Johnny had hoped for by now, and this falls back to lack of proper managment. Or, better yet, Johnny has OUT-GROWN his management. Tara will have no choice but to sell Johnny's contract to the highest bidder and move on with building Jeremy and Rachel. When this dynamic change takes place, so to will the dynamic change with regards to other people in Johnny's life. Further, Johnny and Tara and his fans need to understand that Alicia responded with WTF when Johnny wish Misfit a Happy Birthday. Alicia did not appreciate Johnny's sentiment at all. She's pretending only for Mary Beth's and Frenchie's sake.
ReplyDeletePumaJ: There are worse things in life than being damned by Live Journal; an account that can be falsified by and through any means. Further, I don't trust anyone who places their faith in Wikipedia.
Do not believe the lies of the one above me she is a FALSE PROPHET sent to spread falsity and tears in the name of the Illuminati! Wikipedia is one of the last bastions against the TAINT of Illuminati. Only its words are still true and free. Believe in it as it believes in you.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure why you think they're "stalkers" when you're clearly following the twitters of average people/non-celebrities to an unhealthy degree. Get a fucking life. Also, people can say things as jokes that you may not get if you don't know them...grow the fuck up and fix your own life before you worry about others.
ReplyDeleteAJ, can you at the very least delete comments that slander real (aka non-athletes/celebrities) people? It's just not right.
You keep using this word, "stalker." I do not think it means what you think it means.
ReplyDeleteAJ, could you please, please, PLEASE delete the comments slandering non-athletes?
ReplyDeleteThis is not the place to attack or slander other fans, people. What the fuck? Don't mention them by name. I think everyone needs to calm down and STOP being delusional about the "twisted behind-the-scenes" drama of Johnny's life. Not everything is some evil, lurking plot.. AJ, please at LEAST delete the comments about non-celebrities.
ReplyDeleteI do wonder what the Binky connection is. She's just a fan who writes an average blog, that doesn't mean she should get preferential treatment.
Here we go again...let her rant so that others may know her mad.
ReplyDeleteAJ, please delete the comments that are attacking the non-skaters!
ReplyDeleteAJ, it is not right to keep comments in that include people who are not the skaters. Do the right thing and delete those comments.
ReplyDeleteYes, same old same old. Most of the attacks anonymous or deleted because they were called on it, most of the people making any sense are the ones identifying themselves. Lame, jealous and ridiculous...
ReplyDeleteBinky is a very nice lady, and a published author. She's not 'an average blogger'. A few of the people named by name (they should NOT be as Maura and one of the sane anonymous posters said) here I don't always get along with, but that doesn't mean I like seeing them attacked here. All these anonymous attack dogs really need to get a life or identify themselves instead of hiding like cowards.
Celebrity or not, stalking is a crime. Mary Beth, Frenchie and Alicia are NOT everyday people. They hound anyone close to Johnny via email, phone and act all nice in public. They even hounded me and I'm friends with one of the dingles. Only a few know what is said behind closed doors. Sry if calling them out offends them, the newly anonymous, and you. If you dont want your tweets followed and read then dont tweet. The internet IS a public forum and each of us post knowing this. Someone who claims even on twitter that they want to *fuck and mother* Johnny is NOT a *fan* and they are not normal. That is private convo made public and it shows that the person who posted it has a huge problem dealing with reality. If these words are your definition of an attack then you haven't lived. You haven't been around. If you can't take the heat, get out. To the Anonymous who posted the thing about *stalkers* 2 or 3 times; hello MARY BETH and FRENCHIE and ALICIA. So nice of you to drop by.
ReplyDeleteWheresMyKoppy: How could anyone be jealous. Let Boz stop following them tomorrow and let's see how they all three react. Let's see if these three do not behave dangerously or lash out within 2 or 3 weeks of being dropped. He who chooses to be associated with that type of mentality does so at their own peril. I like Binky. Alicia and her two amigos never did. Protecting your tweets doesn't work. I and others know how to locate and read your RSS feeds lol.
If MY words are your definition of an attack. Excuse me.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 2:11, thank you for setting it straight. I know WHO the three you are posting about are deeply and dangerously jealous of, why they are doing what they're doing (has nothing to do with being a fan), and why they are so busy and trying so hard to one-up a certain someone. Their immense jealousy and hatred towards a beautiful songbird who also happens to be an excellent cook (borderline gourmet) is too obvious. Now, Booshette is trying hard to put herself out there as a cook and a singer (stalkers WANT to be just like the object of their immense jealousy). One of Booshette's friends told me the recent dish she cooked tasted like crap and she cannot carry a tune in a bucket. It's not an attack when it's true.
ReplyDeleteInstead of finding her own TRUE path that is meant just for her, Booshette frustrates herself and tries too hard to emmulate someone who is light-years ahead of her (Booshette) in talent, naturalness, wisdom, strength, graciousness, smarts, education, worldly travel, and accomplishments-someone who is well-loved and adored by many who have the priviledge to know her and someone who would be a welcomed, natural, good asset to any good family.
Booshette, with the help of her friends, needs to find her own path because the path she is walking at this moment is clearly not the one meant for her (or her two friends) to walk.
Yes. "Someone" = the songbird. And she is not on GLEE although rumour has it she may guest on GLEE in the future-I hear she's on standby!
ReplyDeleteUm.. sorry, but I've never seen any of the three ladies in question (and who are being BLATANTLY LIED ABOUT) ever reference any "songbird". I don't know what drugs you're on to make up stories like this, but this thread if full of laughable things: the dingle conspiracy, and now are you trying to say that Johnny is having an illicit affair with a musician/cook? He's gay, and he's never been too shy about it.
ReplyDeleteNow stop attacking people. That shit isn't cute.
Hello! *waves* This is Frenchie, one of the people who is getting talked smack about. I usually don't like to pay these sorts of things any lip service but, seeing as how its upsetting some of my friends, I figured I would. I'll enumerate as its easier to keep my thoughts together as well.
ReplyDelete1) AJ, I do agree that you should delete the comments attacking people who have nothing to do with actual skating. Turning your blog into a personal attack forum isn't cool.
2) I don't know who I'm supposed to be jealous of or who the "songbird" is, sorry.
3) I don't know who this "friend of the dingles" is either. Nor have I ever hounded anyone for anything as that's just not my style. I don't email anyone (outside of my editor and close friends/family) or use the phone...ever. I have unlimited texts if I want to communicate. So, whomever is contacting this "friend" is not me.
4) I'm not sure why anyone is spending all their time immersing themselves in the twitters of people they don't like/talk to. That's a little sketchy. I, personally, don't have time to bother.
5) Anyone I talk to on twitter or in any other capacity is someone I LIKE. Speaking as a person who has no patience for BS, if I don't like someone, I just refuse to deal with them. It doesn't matter who they are or who they know. I've got enough drama in my life.
6) The thought of me thinking I'm "hot shit" because a certain person talks to me is laughable. If I were to think I'm such, it wouldn't have anything to do with anyone other than myself; my opinion of myself doesn't depend on other people. Maybe how ANOTHER person would feel in my position is being PROJECTED onto me but I don't carry myself like that.
7) "One up" someone? For what purpose? If there seems to be a personal issue between myself and someone else, it's just that, PERSONAL. No one outside of the matter would know anything about it. No one would know the why, where, how, etc. and speculating on it just makes it into something its not. Again, I say "seems" because I still don't know what's being referred to.
8) Mary Beth (Booshette) has never claimed to be able to sing or be a gourmet cook. I'm really confused as to where these lies are coming from and why? Its gotten to the point where its like reading a tabloid. What is with the personal vendetta? If anyone thinks this stuff is true about Mary Beth, they've got her genuinely confused with someone else.
9) Boz is welcome to do what he wants. I like him, he's a sweetheart, and no one MADE him talk to me. If he stopped, it would suck because he's fun but no one's world would crumble. Same thing with Eric who I adore because he's been nothing but a prince to me. The accusation of how I or anyone of us would react "dangerously" or "lash out" is utterly ridiculous. Like, really, what would we do and what would be the motivation? "zomg, how dare you not like me anymore?" Please. I want to know what people are gaining from spreading all these rumors and lies.
10) Someone here is both an obvious 'net troll and a blatant liar. You have too much free time on your hands and need to find something else to occupy yourself. I just hope that the something else isn't to turn your crazy elsewhere. Just.Stop.
Oh dear. In the immortal words of the lovely Patti Weir "Jealousy is such an ugly trait for people to possess..don't you think?" I've no idea who my accusers are but if you don't have the testicular fortitude to identify yourself you shouldn't be posting, especially in such an accusatory and libelous (which is also illegal btw) manner.
ReplyDeleteI do not have the email or phone number of, nor do I personally know, anyone near Johnny or anyone once, twice or however many times removed. Nor do I have the time or energy to hound anyone. I've had the privilege of meeting Johnny just once, at the recent Lake Placid event, and therefore have been in a public forum with other fans just once. The other people I met seemed very nice and I would have liked to have been able to know a few more people better but time constraints, other circumstances and my nerves conspired against it. I'm not good with large crowds or unfamiliar circumstances and surroundings. This was also the first opportunity I had to meet and be able to speak and spend time with Frenchie, Mary Beth, Karen and her daughter and they are great people; warm, kind, caring and fun.
I know nothing of Johnny's private life except for what he's shown on BGJW and in his Tweets. Would I like to be part of his fabulousness? Hell yeah. Me and a few thousand others I'm sure. #WishfulThinking
The only two people I'm envious of at the moment are two of my aerobic instructors (and they know it) as they are damn fit and I would like to look like that. I'm working on it. Ergo, I don't know whom this person is that I'm supposed to be "deeply and dangerously jealous of". Perhaps you could give me a hint?
Yes, I'm sure some of my tweets or posts could be considered inappropriate by some. C'est la vie. But I've seen much, much worse so am still wondering why Frenchie, Mary Beth and I are being singled out.
FWIW, I've never claimed to be normal. I've seen what is considered 'normal'. No thanx. Yeah, I’m looking at you.
"The internet IS a public forum and each of us post knowing this."
Yes, it is. But common courtesy and manners dictate that wherever it's said is where it stays. But then, these concepts are apparently foreign to you.
Ugh, I could go on and on.
Whoever the two, or more, of you are, you've made some very hateful, false, demeaning accusations with no proof whatsoever to back them up. So now, either put up or shut up. You obviously know my Twitter acct.
And just for some general information: I live five hours away from NYC. I work full time, I'm at the gym or involved in some other physical training at least two hours a day, I have a house that requires some form of daily maintenance including a lawn, vegetable and flower gardens, I have five cats that require care and whom would like constant attention and I help run a Not-for-profit on top of just general self-maintenance. It was a major production to just be able to take the three days I did to go to Lake Placid. And yet I'm able to stalk and hound people relentlessly? Please. I'll provide a copy of my phone bill if you'd like.
I must admit I am intrigued as to why my Twitter account is being so avidly followed and dissected.
You know where to find me. - Alicia
To the person who said that Booshette is trying to sing or whatever, you didn't even get that from stalking her twitter like the weird creeper you are. She's never said or done ANYTHING like that. So this goes past nasty stalking and into you being mentally ill and having delusions about non-famous people, and then going on to spread those delusions in an extremely scary, hateful and vitriolic way, and I think you need to seek help immediately before you hurt yourself or someone else.
ReplyDelete*munches popcorn*
ReplyDeleteOk Laura, you are making all these accusations so the burden is on you to provide the proof -- enough of you mindless ranting -- you need to show everyone proof. If you don't have the proof, than you need to shut up and get a life...your own and not someone else's.
Either you are taking drugs when you shouldn't, or you should be on medication and you aren't.
@ Anon 2:11 A.M.
ReplyDeleteBitch please! we all know it IS you Laura Linger and let me tell you: this trolling of yours is getting old and quite frankly very easy. Aren't you bored enough, laying on that bed, buying expensive cosmetics to make you feel better? (yes I know you raid the MAC counter regularly). Or did you just got tired of trolling your own family (aka as trolling your sister in law after your own brother died in Iraq)Well if you're tired from that, at least lear proper trolling: create some fake accounts and stop deleting your comments, don't you know by now the internet never forgets?
And why all you so butthurted against these three women? OH I KNOW! Because even if it's true they pester people around Johnny, guess what? It worked! they've met him, he recognizes them as his fans and he LOVES them and their NOT expensive gifts! And that speaks volumes of them; at least they're not some psycho lying on bed, "sick" and trying to figure out ways to bother and harrass others.
Mary Beth bro, how come if you cook so well you've never invite me to dinner and serenade me? LOL
Francesca, you're THE hot thing!
And AJ PLEASE block this Laura person, have the balls already!
PS. to my comment above:
ReplyDeleteThese three lovely girls have never harrassed anyone in order to get near Johnny. As good fans, they go, buy they ticket and wait in a long line to meet him.
I bet you piss yourself when you thing of that, Laura.
PS. to my comment above:
ReplyDeleteThese three lovely girls have never harrassed anyone in order to get near Johnny. As good fans, they go, buy they ticket and wait in a long line to meet him.
I bet you piss yourself when you think of that, Laura.
The only thing I have to say is:
ReplyDeletePaging Dr. Freud?
*munches cracker-jack & licks lolly-pop*
ReplyDeleteTo Mary Beth {aka BROSBEFOREHOES}, Frenchie and Alicia and now others: Just going over your profiles here based on your postings and such. Its okay. The security guy saw everything. Its on tape. Hi.
Alicia: Did you have an eyelash in your eye? Frenchie: From the looks of things, you do have time. Do you always talk smack about someone at an event when they are right there or do you have trouble saying it to their face? Boz makes random comments on Twitter that you readily pounce on and your address de jour is always Twitter. I know, some people save string. And as for the jealousy comment: I doubt any one of you are worthy enough to quote much less emulate, Patricia Weir. Don't even go there.
No one posted anything or any hint at an affair in any post that I have read, so far. It's so like you three to try and twist what other people post because of your own twisted thought process. It's one of your trademarks.
That's all I have to say, and better have to say, for now.
*licks lollypop* One more little thing: Whoever is emulating is the one who is jealous. Point proved. V.
ReplyDeletehttp://alittlepieceofsomethin.tumblr.com/
Dear Nutcase: I don't have a profile here.
ReplyDeleteWhat security camera? Even if there were one anywhere I may have been you certainly wouldn't be privy to it.
I do tend to have problems w/my contacts. dealwithit.gif
More worthy than you could ever hope to be.
Cracker Jacks & a lollypop? #questionablemixture What are you, 12?
Now go along there with the nice men in their nice white coats.
'Baby, did you forget to take your meds?'
Again, decloak or shut up. Or is that uncloak? Where's a Star Trek ep when you need one?
*licks lollypop* Alicia: I couldn't help but notice this little piece of info. Out of all the "songbirds" in the galaxy, out of all the vast variety, you chose this one.
ReplyDeletehttp://twitter.com/alicat2494/status/21064951560
Why kerilynn1? What has she ever done to you? For the most part, she has been nothing but nice to everyone on Twitter. She was even nice to you; until according to what I've been told, she defollowed you after word came back around to her that you were talking smack about her to your friends and to others on Twitter and FB. And considering what the above posting fully implies and confirms (you DO know of whom I post so kindly stop the BS and don't play dumb), I do not blame her one bit for blocking you and others who talk smack about her behind her back.
This smack-talking about kerilynn1 seems to have risen and come to a head only after she and her record company posted the beautiful, magnificent tribute she composed for Johnny Weir and his family on youtube.com However, as one true fan noted:
"This is BEAUTIFUL! Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful creation in this amazing tribute. It shows how one talent can inspire another and MAGNIFY both." So right and very true.
It's so refreshing and wonderful that Johnny Weir's true fans DO understand and DO "get it". Whether you or anyone likes it or not, she and Johnny are collegues within the industry. He is a musical member of her family, now, and that is a very good thing where both are concerned. They are both very lucky. Their combined mind-sets and energies can only make things better for humanity. The rest of you need to check your jealousies and egos at, by or out the door.
The End.
Alicia: Ive found you out and have called you out. It's time to stop digging your own grave and get some help. If Booshette and Frenchie are your true friends, they will advise you as I am doing. You sound dangerous, Alicia. Are you not well?
ReplyDelete"Dear Nutcase: I don't have a profile here." Yes you do.
Thank you for proving my case to the world. I have some friends who work for the State of Florida who can call those who work in any state, including New York, with regards to your dangerous state of mind.
Just thought I'd point out that this blog is for discussions on skating and not for harassment towards other people. Whoever is posting these Anonymous comments that slander other fans, and posters, have crossed the line. This behavior is considered bullying, stalking, and harassment and just because you are posting Anonymously doesn't mean you cannot be charged in a court of law if there is enough evidence to do so. AJ as the owner of this blog it is your responsibility to moderate these comments so something this malicious does not happen. It is irresponsible not to moderate and you can be charged for allowing this to continue as well.
ReplyDeleteAlicia (aka Alex): You have no relation to the law so why pretend. Calling someone out is not harrassment; anymore than it is for a bill collector who appropriately collects on a debt. No one has crossed the line, here. Here, if you do not wish to post then you do not have to. If you do not like what you read, you can turn away; just as someone turns off the radio or changes a channel. You can also turn off your computer.
ReplyDeleteYou have options. Making threats is NOT one of them. The anonymous poster(s) you are illegally charging here have never made any threats to anyone that I can read; nor have I ever made any threats to anyone here or anywhere. I simply called you and your friends out on something, and your reaction makes it true; you and your friends have been making malicious remarks behind kerilynn1's back and for no reason. You've done this out of pure jealousy and unfounded, unwarranted hatred. You have been caught. All you need do is admit it to yourself and move on. My post is true enough to make you post a bonifide threat against me. Making threats IS "crossing the line" in full legal terms and IS punishable by law. Making good on those threats doubles it. By making threats of "court of law" especially when you are not a lawyer or an officer of the court; YOU have crossed the line.
By coming here and posting, you are clearly trying to fuel something. You have also proven that you are a danger to yourself and possibly others. Alicia, you and your friends really NEED to get some therapy. That is all.
She has quite a bunch of fans,really, all...uhm...three of them. You can have even more fun when you log in. Judge yourself.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIDL5eczd4E
This looks like something from the eighties given the fashion and hair choice. Although, the black dress looks great. It´s actually from 1990/91.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ddWd-zu9M&feature=channel
Anonymous said...She has quite a bunch of fans,really, all...uhm...three of them. You can have even more fun when you log in. Judge yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIDL5eczd4E August 14, 2010 5:43 AM
ReplyDeleteReally. I counted five or six statements, and isn't it a little early in the morning to be so mean, ugly and jealous?
There are over 300 total views so far, and this is ONLY the 4th day. All the views so far have been very positive. It's sad but fitting I guess that someone as jealous and mean-spirited and UGLY as you would take stabs not only at kerilynn1's fitting and lovely tribute, music and artistry which has also been described so far as beautiful and magnificent, but you're also taking stabs at everyone she has come in contact with and Johnny Weir and his family who are so presented in said, fitting tribute. Sad. Very sad.
I hope you are not a friend or fan of Johnny or his family.
You are just so UGLY and unappreciative. You know that?
What do you want?
ReplyDeleteI was trying to be helpful and do some PR for Ms. Jones. There is nothing wrong with it.
I want to apologize. There is actually a second link to the Johnny appreciation song I forgot to
mention.
Anonymous 5:43am: Alicia, come on now. Get over it already. You and your friends have been called out. Drop it and go on.
ReplyDeleteBTW and while we're on the subject: Where is YOUR masterpiece? Have you written or painted one, yet? In your small mind, and in your little world, only someone with a lot of fans is allowed to be inspired and create something like this or better, right? Then show us all how it is done. Do it.
Meanwhile, while you and the other uglies, trolls and mongeese out there are cutting truly talented artists down behind their backs; kerilynn1 has already DONE IT. That is where and how the rubber meets the road. Sorry but it looks like you're just going to have to cut your losses on this one.
"Out of UGLY, make something BEAUTIFUL!" -Johnny Weir
ReplyDeleteI see that kerilynn1 released this shortly after Evan made his Twitter fiasco, and she has lived up to that beautiful statement by Johnny Weir!
Anonymous said...What do you want? I was trying to be helpful and do some PR for Ms. Jones. There is nothing wrong with it.
ReplyDeleteI want to apologize. There is actually a second link to the Johnny appreciation song I forgot to
mention. August 14, 2010 6:36 AM
*licks lollypop*
Stop it. You were not trying to be helpful. You were making fun. You were and still are being a complete and total jackass. Stop being a vagina. The question is what do YOU want? She will be working with a seven time Grammy award winning artist this fall so I doubt she needs your help in anything.
Now, how may I help you?
OMG! She did release it after Evan stepped in his own pile of shit on Twitter! Evan's skating hasn't inspired anything, has it.
ReplyDelete???
Awesome!
There is a time to every purpose unto Heaven. So, after Evan and Twitter; she did the right thing, at the right time, in the right place, and for the right reason; and out of UGLY, she made something beautiful. That's 100% pure, unconditional love right there. I love how Johnny and kerilynn1 magnify each other in this way. To God be all the Glory!
ReplyDeleteShe has quite an impressive vita also. I can´t wait for the collaboration with the Grammy award winning artist.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Keri-Lynn/23638767706?v=info&ref=ts
If someone wants to follow her on Twitter
http://twitter.com/KeriLynn1
She´s always happy about new followers.Her tweets speak for themselves.Don´t forget to look for her assets.
Laura (aka anon):
ReplyDeleteThis sure sounds like a threat to me:
"I have some friends who work for the State of Florida who can call those who work in any state, including New York, with regards to your dangerous state of mind.
August 13, 2010 9:16 PM"
You really don't know who Alex is, do you?
Where is your proof of anything you are saying here? You keep saying you've called me out but on what exactly?
ReplyDeleteKeriLynn wasn't even a blip on my radar screen until this crap started & I started looking around & all evidence seemed to point to her. You want to support her? That's great, fine, go for it. She isn't my style. And, once again, where is your proof of anything I allegedly said against her? What exactly does a post saying I know nothing about her imply or confirm besides I know nothing about her? And, no, I've no idea who you are speaking of.
Please post the link to my profile here, I'm curious as I don't remember ever setting one up.
I'm not Alex nor do I post anonymously as proven by the posts I make w/my own name on them. I've nothing to hide. You apparently can't make that same claim.
You have friends who work for the government? Gosh, that's nice. So do I! They're called my co-workers. Bring it bitch.
You know nothing of me or my life or of anything I have created or done. Nothing of what you've said against me, MaryBeth or Frenchie is any where near the truth.
Again, where is your proof. You keep talking shit but haven't put your money where your mouth is yet. Not to mention your hiding behind the anonymous tag, you coward. If anyone needs mental help it's you. So, bring on your proof. All you've shown so far are unsubstantiated lies and delusions only proven further by your copying of ideas that have been posted before you and not following through on everything you've been called out on.
Show us your proof. Proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof...
LOL, I can't believe that you crazy chicks are STILL going at it days later. I'm only here because I was told that this was still going on like a bad case of herpes and that my name was still being brought up which I really don't appreciate it. GET OFF IT, ALREADY. I honestly don't know what you're getting out of this but its incredibly pathetic. Whatever issue it is that you have with me or anyone else, let go of it because its doing you no good and is scarily unhealthy.
ReplyDeleteWhy are you so invested in my twitter, invested in ME? I'd still like to know this. You (I say "you" because I'm pretty sure that the person on the attack is a single person making multiple comments) keep referring to the activity on my twitter and I'm wondering if you're also somehow a fan of my tweets having to do w/my job, concerts, random hotties on the train, etc even though you can't seem to stand me. Or do you just filter through them looking for things that refer to skating and people who know skaters so you can fuel your misplaced rage? You are so fixated on Boz and what I say to him for no apparent reason. So what if I talk to him like, omg, he's a regular human being? Have you noticed that my entire feed is a running conversation w/pretty much EVERYONE I follow? No, because you're too obsessed with this one thing. And there's no better word for it than "obsessed". This entire comment section of attacks is sickening, sad, and doesn't display Johnny Weir fans in the best light at all.
Spending all of your time attacking other fans when those fans are doing nothing but going on their merry way? That's a total waste of energy and I'm certain there are more interesting, constructive ways to spend your time. Stop stalking me, stop stalking my friends, and start paying attention to you own life. If you're happy with yourself and how your life is going, you won't be so concerned with other people.
As for my talking smack about people while they're right there? Ok, if you say so. Last time I checked though, no one was put on this earth to be liked by everybody else. Its a fact of life that you should have learned already. The difference between you and me is that I know what needs to be made a stink out of and the simple dislike of someone else is NOT it. I'm not going to stand there and attack someone because I don't like them. That would be like me going to an online blog and attacking other fans because I don't like them...much like you're doing now.
Get a life and get over it already.
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ReplyDeleteBtw, I'm done responding to this. Its just so ludicrous and asinine that I feel myself getting dumber every time I entertain this place. Peace out.
ReplyDeleteKeriLynn wasn't even a blip on my radar screen until this crap started & I started looking around & all evidence seemed to point to her. You want to support her? That's great, fine, go for it. She isn't my style. And, once again, where is your proof of anything I allegedly said against her? What exactly does a post saying I know nothing about her imply or confirm besides I know nothing about her? And, no, I've no idea who you are speaking of.
ReplyDeleteBullshit, Alicia. You are so ugly. You are worse than Evan and his Twitter shit towards Johnny, I swear to God. It's just like you and Evan to try and cover your asses like this.
Alicia: You have been called out. Simple. You do know her and anon was right when they posted that out of ALL the songbirds in the galaxy, you PURPOSEFULLY linked this to kerilynn1 's Twitter and you did this WHILE she was posting that day on Twitter so she would be sure to see it. You were clearly and purposefully watching her as she posted that day. THAT is STALKING. You clearly wanted to start something and now you can't handle it. I doubt you looked around at all. And what evidence? What are you now, a lawyer? Alicia, I am so tired of you.
http://twitter.com/alicat2494/status/21064951560
You sure as hell posted a lot of nice things to her when you were following each other so you knew her then, right? And I'm sure you went looking and searching for all the internet info you could find on her because that's how you operate. I wouldn't put it past you to gather info for Booshette, to keep your boo in the loop. So kerilynn1 defollowed you because you and your friends were caught talking smack behind her back after the truth came back around to her. That's her choice. Get over it.
Admit it. Obviously, you are insanely jealous of kerilynn1 for some reason and you nor your friends can shake it off. You and your friends need to get some help.
Alicia, you need to stop digging your own grave on here, gurl. Time for you and your friends to pack it and move on. You've been caught. The proof is right in your face when you look in the mirror. You know.
ReplyDeleteStop threatening kerilynn1 I've read her tweets. She is a nice person and doesn't deserve this from anyone. Retract claws.
On a more positive note, I love Keri-Lynn's tribute to Johnny Weir and his Family and I'm looking forward to the 2nd and 3rd movements. I hope there is a grand premiere of this sometime in the future. I want to see it performed live.
ReplyDeleteThe music says everything most people probably wish they could say when they meet Johnny Weir for the first time. She has truly captured Johnny's inner soul and beauty and artistry like a painter captures a sunrise or a sunset on canvas! A beautiful tribute with perfect timing!
germansoulmate said You go, girls. Kudos to you.
ReplyDeleteWere you blocked by kerilynn1 too, right? I think probably so.
Frenchie: You really need to distance yourself away from Alicia and Booshette and all of this right now. You don't want to be seen as Alicia's lapdog or her assistant or go-to gurl. It will not look good on you.
Not your style, Alicia? Okay sure. But obviously she's enough of "your style" for you and your friends to come here and damn her like this. Jealous much?
ReplyDeleteYou know what, I think I will support kerilynn1 and her music, now. I love what she did with this amazing tribute to Johnny Weir and his family and can't wait to hear the rest! Also, her wedding selections on Twitter ROCK!
Out of something ugly, make something BEAUTIFUL! ~ Johnny Weir
OMG...Delusional doesn´t even cover it. LOL.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...OMG...Delusional doesn´t even cover it. LOL. August 15, 2010 12:53 AM
ReplyDeleteIf you're posting about Alicia and her friends then I agree. If not, you're just being ugly; and you're not brave enough to post who your remark is for. For all I or anyone knows, you could be Alicia or one of her friends. So, a few questions, Alicia. What evidence? What are you talking about? You nor your friends are making any sense.
The Johnny Weir tribute is amazing. Wish I could do that.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
ReplyDeleteAlbert Einstein
Alicia said..."Alicia, I am so tired of you. "
ReplyDeleteFor someone who claims to be tired of me you spend an awful lot of time reading my Twitter feed and thinking about me.
Alicia, you're acting crazy jealous now, gurl. Better watch yourself and check it. Alicia, you're the one spending an awful lot of time following and checking up on kerilynn1. Alicia. I am one of those you have run to with bullshit about kerilynn1 and I am tired of you. I am not alone. We smile to you on Twitter but the reality check is we do not like you. Why are you doing this? Do you really think it's going to earn you any brownie points? Drop it.
Anonymous said...Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein August 15, 2010 9:09 AM
ReplyDeleteIn reality, Einstein knew about the former because, in fact, he talked about it in that very statement. Like so many people, he PRETENDED not to know about "human stupidity"; thinking it would make him "smarter"; which is kind of stupid, when you think about his thought process at the time. Maybe he was drunk.
Remember kiddies: If P, THEN Q. If NOT P, then NOT Q. That's the way it is.
lmfao. Omg - you people are so delusional.
ReplyDeleteAnyone still following this train wreck just go read my twitter feed. You will find one mention of Keri-Lynn, the very one these whack jobs keep referring to. I don't know who any of you are & I certainly haven't run to anyone w/anything concerning KL. I'm certainly not jealous of her or any of you. Can't be jealous of something you just don't care about.
Otherwise, I'm done here. There is just no reasoning with insanity and that's all you people are spouting.
Good-bye.
Alicia, so now you're delusional and crazy jealous of kerilynn1. OIC. You're not following any train of thought on her but you are responding very quickly here. HAHA busted. So you erased the other posts. Big whoop. You and "Evan" have a lot in common. Maybe you should date. FYI, YOU are the "train wreck" here, Alicia. You have run to others with issues concerning her like it's your business, liar. And on top of this, you and your friends have been caught!
ReplyDeleteYou don't care about her??? HAHA. The very fact that you continue to post and talk SMACK about kerilynn1 means you DO care. Your actions betray your words.
Thank you for proving my points. Your accusations were indeed unfounded and UNTRUE. You chose kerilynn1 out of all the "songbirds" out there from which to choose because you are crazy and insanely jealous of her. And you just proved that you were the one who made the Albert Einstein remark as anonymous. Alicia, you are so stupid it hurts. Get a life and leave kerilynn1, her friends, family, collegues, co-workers, twitter & FB fans & friends ALONE.
The Johnny Weir tribute is absolutely divine and beautiful; so meaningful. I hope kerilynn1 keeps up the good work! She has no idea how many people are so proud of her right now.
Oh yeah, kerilynn1 is loved. Just look at her Twitter feed today; on a weekend day!!!
ReplyDeleteTo the person/people posting Anonymously; it's really not a good idea to take out your sexual frustrations on other people. Especially if it makes you look like a paranoid narcissistic moron with multiple personality disorder. And no, I am not Alicia or anyone else you claim me to be for any foolish reason. Just because you were rejected by both Johnny and kerilynn1 and still have perverted sexual feelings doesn't give you the gall or the right to attack anyone else. I don't care what you say, there is no reason in your head.
ReplyDeleteThe Einstein post and the delusional one wasn´t from A. Just saying.
ReplyDeleteI still think it´s interesting to watch who has responded to it and in what way he/she has responded. It tells a lot.
Thank you for clarifying that.
Dear Alex and with regards to whom both Johnny and kerilynn1 have rejected, or are not and probably never will follow; I hope everyone understands now why neither Johnny or kerilynn1 will follow certain people and IF they do, these people are usually screened and checked. The reasons for this are very clear.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...The Einstein post and the delusional one wasn´t from A. Just saying.
ReplyDeleteI still think it´s interesting to watch who has responded to it and in what way he/she has responded. It tells a lot. Thank you for clarifying that. August 16, 2010 4:56 AM
I twisted my remark on purpose to show how easy it is to confuse others without trying.
I do agree that Johnny is lucky to have the support of kerilynn1 in his corner.
ReplyDeleteAs someone who attended LP, I want to say that I thought it was sweet of her to give up her photo spot so that the younger fans in line could have their turn more quickly. I over heard her mention that it was past their bedtime and she was concerned for them; although she joked openly that she might "break the camera". Impossible because, let's face it girls, she is pretty.
The two of them, Johnny and kerilynn1, working on the same song or project together would likely send it over the top. I'd like to see what these two could produce together. Music, a show, or whatever!
anon 6:00 am, "...although she joked openly that she might "break the camera". Impossible because, let's face it girls, she is pretty."
ReplyDeleteLMAO. I think I like your brand of crazy.
I´ve always thought KL knows Johnny in person. I´ve always thought they are very close. Her tweets imply that heavily. Why does she have to stay in line then. Wouldn´t it be appropriate for her to stand beside Tara at the table in LP.
ReplyDeleteWeird! I´m so dissappointed now.
Okay. I was just linked here and don't know any of the participants, but Alicia, you need to STOP taking the bait here. The person who is taunting you is very obviously disturbed and will continue attacking you if you keep paying attention to him/her (I'm going to guess her). Anyone with two functioning brain cells can identify that poster as someone with serious mental deficiencies, so there is no need to defend yourself against her delusional rantings. Just go on about your business and let this crazy person drool and scream.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...anon 6:00 am, "...although she joked openly that she might "break the camera". Impossible because, let's face it girls, she is pretty."
ReplyDeleteLMAO. I think I like your brand of crazy.
August 16, 2010 6:40 AM
I like your brand, too. What's it called.
Anonymous said...I´ve always thought KL knows Johnny in person. I´ve always thought they are very close. Her tweets imply that heavily. Why does she have to stay in line then. Wouldn´t it be appropriate for her to stand beside Tara at the table in LP. Weird! I´m so dissappointed now. August 16, 2010 7:13 AM
ReplyDeleteI find it very interesting how you and your post zero in on kerilynn1's post about Johnny, but you totally neglect the other posts made by other fans. You omit the very suggestive ones that have always been posted; even by fans who are married with children. Johnny's fans, married and single, have always made very cutesy, suggestive, lewd, sexual and otherwise extreme come-on remarks to Johnny on his Twitter and nobody ever points that out. There is this one fan "Moo" who tweeted that she drove by his apartment however uninvited; like she knows where he lives. Her "marriage" does not make her a "safe" person yet nobody calls her out. Not even you. What is your point?
To Anon 6:40, 7:13, and 9:51:
ReplyDeleteI too have to ask, WHY are you and others pin-pointing kerilynn1 and ONLY her tweets made to Johnny? I don't have a problem with her tweets because I'm not jealous. I understand her. I'm sure Johnny does, too. If Johnny doesn't want kerilynn1 to tweet, that's between himself and her. Trust me, he and he alone will tell her. Prompting from friends and fans will only make Johnny turn away from the ones who tell him what to do; even if you ask nicely and cry on his shoulder as A has reportedly done with Drew and others to try and get on Johnny's good side (I doubt Drew is a part of Johnny's life anymore but whatever).
This is very sad. The level of jealousy is what's insane and the product of (a) delusional, warped and twisted mind(s).
ReplyDeleteI was at LP and some of the other skating events she attended, and will vouch-safe that kerilynn1 and Johnny have always conducted themselves and approached each other with mutual grace, poise, dignity, kindness, affection and self-respect. They have always approached each other as the industry professionals they truly are. Please know that I and others (including photogs & professional journalists, etc. who were also in attendance) stand at the ready and will bear witness to kerilynn1's behavior in Johnny's and Tara's presense as good, gracious, professional, friendly and very appropriate.
Anon 9:51, Do you know Alicia? Sounds like you know her really well. Sounds like you may have been in alot of contact with her. Is this what you meant when you posted that you have some blogging to do? Links and others from here and Twitter seem to be passed around alot these days, and I know who is doing this. I got links in my email and on Twitter, too.
ReplyDeleteTRUE FACT: The one(s) spreading links from here and Twitter by DM and email is(are) the culprit(s).
Most are dealing double; posting here anonymously, then DMing the links of these posts while accusing others of posting them. When THEY (the ones DMing others on Twitter and emailing the same links) are the very culprits making these delusional posts and stirring the pot.
So those of you who have received a link by DM or email, be wise to ask yourself just one question: What could she/he possibly want by DMing me or emailing me this shit. What are they after. What do they want. Then do yourself a favor and block them, defollow them, report them to Twitter and have nothing further to do with them. They are the delusional ones trying to start something. They are jealous.
I want to hear Johnny and Keri-Lynn harmonize and sing a duet together! So FAB! Tara and TeamWeir, make it happen!
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