What a great group of short programs - I can't imagine Worlds being any better.
Really enjoyed Miki for once. Have not seen Shoji before but she's lovely. I love Mao's presence but she was way over-rewarded for those underrotated jumps.
Haruka Imai's coach looks like a very nice elderly man, but what does he do to these talented girls' jumps? Hiroshi Nagakubo should have his coaching credentials removed after what he did to Mao this summer. I'm not surprised Haruka couldn't figure out where she was.
@ Justin Have you ever seen a fully rotated 3 Axel?
Anyways, Nagakubo helped Mao so much during the olympics and WC. You clearly don't know what you are talking about Justin (if that's really who you are lol)
Mao: Two-footed 3A<<, 3L<<-2L<<, 3F<, choreograph irrelevant to Tango, slow step but not as slow as Ando. Musicality? What musicality? Ando: Solid jumps. Pls don't make me fall asleep during your spins and steps. Murakami: Yes you are young and cute. but you're also young enough to correct your high-kick and low back Shoji: Who is this kid? Elegant, fast, high jumps, musical. I like.
Sigh. Why are these comments SO redundant? I won't be surprised if the same person is typing them. I'm just curious to know why some people here are watching this event when you seem to dislike half of the team. lol.
Justin, Haruka has been with Nagakubo for quite some time now (as has Akiko), so it's not like she just switched to him and he ruined her jumps...take a look at her TEB SP. Also, Mao's jumps were looking quite good under his tutelage earlier this year so I question your accusation of him as a bad coach.
Poor Suzuki indeed. Now she's skating way too early, the 14th skater up (2nd skater in the 3rd group)... :( Hope she'll still get the PCS she deserves.
--The thing is, Kanako also made a pretty big mistake by singling the required 2A, but she received ridiculously high GOE on her other two jumps which are good, but not all 2 and 3s good, while Akiko received next to none. Stupid.
Suzuki will make ultimate sacrifice chosen by JSF so that the three skaters 'they' want can go to the World instead of the 'best' three. And obviously they seemed to have decided to include Mao as long as she stays two feet on the ice. They don't seem to have any more the luxury of caring about basic concepts such as full rotation, "one"-foot landing, choreography or musicality.
I understand your need to remain anonymous since your posting of Ito and Harding shows how old and outdated you must be. Mao's axel was within 1/4 turn of completion. Do you want the specialist to cheat against her because you did not like her execution? That is what GOE is for. Get into it!
Suzuki emotes a lot and really sells her program effectively a la Emily Hughes, but there is something to be said for beautiful lines and subtlety. It may not be as crowd pleasing, but Mao's deep knees and positions are heavily favored by the international (and not just the biased Japanese) judges.
All this hand wringing about Akiko is premature. Bias toward Mao accounts for some of her 10 point lead over Akiko. Mao received a "she stayed on her feet" bonus not unlike the ridiculous scores Michelle Kwan received at 2000, 2002 and 2005 US Nationals.
But the judges are not going to close the door on Akiko. If she outskates Mao, Akiko (or anyone else) can overcome Mao in the free skate. Consider the reality of Mao's vulnerability based on how she has skated.
Relax and wait for the free skate before you throw stones at the JSF and Mao.
@Justin - I watched the SP and I felt that Mao should have not gotten full credit for her 3A with just -1 GOE. At best she should have had a UR and at least a -2 (if not an automatic -3 for the two foot (per ISU communication 1611)
Also, I don't agree with your earlier assertion that Akiko's coach is to blame for Mao "losing her jumps". The fact is that when you're reworking your jumps, it's going to be a long journey.
Akiko in the end lost it on a botched UR Lutz. However, she should have gotten some +GOE on the other jumps.
anonymous 8:26 PM, They watch the event just to find faults in brilliant japanese ladies. They just want to diss them so you can just ignore those scared dogs barking and enjoy the event.
he/she didn't write anything. he/she just posted those you tube garbage about yuna kim that were made by the yakuza. 10 months have passed and they are still bitter. believe me, you didn't miss a thing coz those are garbage. i don't know why people are so gullible to believe those crap.
Risa is 10x more elegant than Kanako. God, I hate that "Jumping Jack" short program.
ReplyDeleteAkiko and Haruka :'(
ReplyDeleteMao :)
What a great group of short programs - I can't imagine Worlds being any better.
ReplyDeleteReally enjoyed Miki for once. Have not seen Shoji before but she's lovely. I love Mao's presence but she was way over-rewarded for those underrotated jumps.
I'm glad Mao stayed on her feet, but full credit for her 3A? Uh...no.
ReplyDeleteThere does seem to be something ungainly about Murakami's skating that I find oddly irritating.
ReplyDeleteAnother :( for Akiko.
ReplyDeleteI can only conclude by her recent costumes that Mao has a boob inferiority complex.
"I can only conclude by her recent costumes that Mao has a boob inferiority complex."
ReplyDeleteThat's Japan for you. That's why their cartoons depict an obsession with gigantic jugs.
Why can't miki hold her layback spins anymore? I guess her back injury? What a sad way to end a pretty good program. s
ReplyDeleteA kiss for Morozov huh?
Anyone else ready for a ban on tangos?
ReplyDeleteThat 3 axel was fully rotated. I do wonder why some of you with such sharp opinions always choose to post comments anonymously.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know who is doing the commentary?
Haruka Imai's coach looks like a very nice elderly man, but what does he do to these talented girls' jumps? Hiroshi Nagakubo should have his coaching credentials removed after what he did to Mao this summer. I'm not surprised Haruka couldn't figure out where she was.
ReplyDelete@ Justin
ReplyDeleteHave you ever seen a fully rotated 3 Axel?
Anyways, Nagakubo helped Mao so much during the olympics and WC. You clearly don't know what you are talking about Justin (if that's really who you are lol)
"Anyone else ready for a ban on tangos?"
ReplyDeleteDear God, yes. So few people do them well, and the music gets SO redundant.
Bad day, only 17th for Imai. Fluky 2A fall. It's like she she delays the rotation on the 3F or something.
ReplyDeleteMao: Two-footed 3A<<, 3L<<-2L<<, 3F<, choreograph irrelevant to Tango, slow step but not as slow as Ando. Musicality? What musicality?
ReplyDeleteAndo: Solid jumps. Pls don't make me fall asleep during your spins and steps.
Murakami: Yes you are young and cute. but you're also young enough to correct your high-kick and low back
Shoji: Who is this kid? Elegant, fast, high jumps, musical. I like.
Sigh. Why are these comments SO redundant? I won't be surprised if the same person is typing them. I'm just curious to know why some people here are watching this event when you seem to dislike half of the team. lol.
ReplyDeleteJustin, Haruka has been with Nagakubo for quite some time now (as has Akiko), so it's not like she just switched to him and he ruined her jumps...take a look at her TEB SP. Also, Mao's jumps were looking quite good under his tutelage earlier this year so I question your accusation of him as a bad coach.
ReplyDeletePoor Suzuki.....
ReplyDeletePoor Suzuki indeed. Now she's skating way too early, the 14th skater up (2nd skater in the 3rd group)... :( Hope she'll still get the PCS she deserves.
ReplyDelete--The thing is, Kanako also made a pretty big mistake by singling the required 2A, but she received ridiculously high GOE on her other two jumps which are good, but not all 2 and 3s good, while Akiko received next to none. Stupid.
Justin,
ReplyDeleteThis is what a fully rotated 3A looks like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdadgPxYaqg&feature=related
And the loop was short too.
Suzuki will make ultimate sacrifice chosen by JSF so that the three skaters 'they' want can go to the World instead of the 'best' three. And obviously they seemed to have decided to include Mao as long as she stays two feet on the ice. They don't seem to have any more the luxury of caring about basic concepts such as full rotation, "one"-foot landing, choreography or musicality.
ReplyDeleteI understand your need to remain anonymous since your posting of Ito and Harding shows how old and outdated you must be. Mao's axel was within 1/4 turn of completion. Do you want the specialist to cheat against her because you did not like her execution? That is what GOE is for. Get into it!
ReplyDeleteSuzuki emotes a lot and really sells her program effectively a la Emily Hughes, but there is something to be said for beautiful lines and subtlety. It may not be as crowd pleasing, but Mao's deep knees and positions are heavily favored by the international (and not just the biased Japanese) judges.
ReplyDeleteAll this hand wringing about Akiko is premature. Bias toward Mao accounts for some of her 10 point lead over Akiko. Mao received a "she stayed on her feet" bonus not unlike the ridiculous scores Michelle Kwan received at 2000, 2002 and 2005 US Nationals.
But the judges are not going to close the door on Akiko. If she outskates Mao, Akiko (or anyone else) can overcome Mao in the free skate. Consider the reality of Mao's vulnerability based on how she has skated.
Relax and wait for the free skate before you throw stones at the JSF and Mao.
@Justin - I watched the SP and I felt that Mao should have not gotten full credit for her 3A with just -1 GOE. At best she should have had a UR and at least a -2 (if not an automatic -3 for the two foot (per ISU communication 1611)
ReplyDeleteAlso, I don't agree with your earlier assertion that Akiko's coach is to blame for Mao "losing her jumps". The fact is that when you're reworking your jumps, it's going to be a long journey.
Akiko in the end lost it on a botched UR Lutz. However, she should have gotten some +GOE on the other jumps.
anonymous 8:26 PM,
ReplyDeleteThey watch the event just to find faults in brilliant japanese ladies. They just want to diss them so you can just ignore those scared dogs barking and enjoy the event.
AJ, What did your friend Margaret Thatcher write? It was deleted soon but I'm curious!
ReplyDeleteSUZUKI :(
ReplyDeletehe/she didn't write anything. he/she just posted those you tube garbage about yuna kim that were made by the yakuza. 10 months have passed and they are still bitter. believe me, you didn't miss a thing coz those are garbage. i don't know why people are so gullible to believe those crap.
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