They are not teammates nor friends. Do you actually think Gabby cares abt Vika's feelings? And it's clearly a major loss for Vika, so she can't be expected to be happy about her silver medal. She's way better than that.
I watched the whole feed. Vika really never gave anyone a chance to congratulate her face to face, nor could she steel herself to offer any congratulations, and it's just the done thing to go through the motions. The closeness between her and Aliya was sweet though. I think the generous interpretation is she's a bit immature. It seems like a lack of mental preparation, since they both had to know they could lose and would still have to face the press and the ceremony.
Only 'brutal' if Gabby was saying something obnoxious because Komova has her head in her hands there and would not have been able to see Gabby smiling, only the pat on the shoulder.
I don't blame anyone for crying when they lose. In the world series, they show grown men in the losing team dugout crying - so what's the big deal if a 16 year old girl cries for coming in second?
Sure its nice when people can put a smile on their face and be grateful for what they have accomplished, but we are all human beings, not Xerox's.
The implied meaning was 'brutal for Komova' not brutal behaviour from Komova. I have a fair amount of sympathy for her here. I think leaving Komova alone for perhaps a bit longer to let her gather herself might have been better.
These are young girls in an extreme pressure situation. We don't know what circumstances make up their lives. We certainly do not know what pressures the Russians may have on them, due to social circumstances. It is a different world over there, and a 1rst place medal is so much more than that. It means changes and upgrades for the whole family. Gabby is going on to riches, and we don't know if anything will change for the Russians. Let then all cry for goodness sake. Cry for disappointment/defeat or happiness. I know for a fact we in Canada and the USA have no clue what it is like for them at home. I do know living conditions are not like they are out here. So you know what? Get beyond yourself for a minute and think about it.
I bet your bottom dollar they don't live like the Raisman's, and NEVER will. ALL the girls from every country deserve any emotion they have they have all earned to feel whatever they want.
pfft I think we all know how Komova lives seeing as her mother is Vera Kolesnikova. They might not be living in a wealthy Boston suburb but they're not starving. In fact, hardly anyone from urban centers in the booming Chinese economy and oil-rich Russia are starving
Actually, wealthy Russians pretty much live by and above American standards. American perceptions of the rest of the world are pretty skewed. While Russia is officially a middle-income country, urban centers have economic levels similar to those in "developed" western economies. Less urban areas and particularly regions far from Moscow and St. Petersburg certainly struggle, just like there are areas of the US that struggle, but I don't think Viktoria Komova comes from a particularly low-income family given who her parents are. While there is no way to know without knowing her personally, I would be surprised if she hadn't had a pretty nice life.
I don't think that picture was meant for that context as some of you might've thought. I am sure a second after this was taken Vika answered Gabby somehow to this. God, you hate Gabby when she headcases, when she is getting better and more confident (or cocky as some of you trolls say), and when she approaches someone in tears. If she didn't approach, and perhaps because of reasons like celebrating with her coach, looking for her mom in the stands, or maybe because she figured Vika wanted to be alone, trolls would've been hating her too. Gimmie a break.
I'm getting really tired of these Russian antics, I had thought the drama and unsportsmanlike conduct would have ended with Khorkina retiring but not so.
Apparently not happy with merely snatching off her medal and holding it in her hand as she did last year Komova actually shoved the medal in her pocket as if it were a used tissue.
I know that gold is the goal but her behavior is disgusting.
And enough with all this their only 17/16 foolishness these girls have been competing in international competitions since they were 10/11 and should know how to accept silver if not with a smile then with a straight face.
Here's an article on what Komova and Mustafina actually said after the loss http://www.examiner.com/article/viktoria-komova-i-am-proud-about-what-i-ve-done-today. She cried a little. They haven't been run through the bullshit PR lessons like the US girls have. I have no idea why people place so much emphasis on smiling like a fucking idiot while you're dying inside.
Pathetic antics indeed - I find it amazing how such behavior would be viewed as incredibly rude or as acting like an 'arrogant American' if the US were to behave like that - But somehow it is forgiven when it comes from the Russians - Oh well, what goes around comes around...
These are teenagers. Gabby was trying to comfort Komova, but it's awkward, esp at that age. And Komova is--what--17? Even an adult would be crushed to work so hard for years and then come up short. Let her cry. It's a human emotion. I like it when Olympians act like humans instead of PR-trained robots.
IM SO SICK OF TROLLS and people who are like "omg stop hating gabbyyyyy" gabby is a pain in the butt, quite arrogant and often overstored. However she probably deserved to win here. now everyone stop bitching
Gabby took 2 steps to the side on vault and got way over scored. Russian girl underscored on Floor Routine. The fix was in from the get go. They had to have their Diversity Queen win.
Thank you, Anon 4:27, for stating what is obvious to everyone except a disturbed few - Both of the Russians have been vastly overscored throughout this competition - It is only through the incredible talent and mental strength of the Americans that the Russians were not automatically offered berths at the top of the podium
Honestly, I'm American, and if I had just lost something I'd trained my entire life for, I'd be in tears. And if the winner came over to me as I'm crying my eyes out with a huge smile on their face to do...what, exactly? Tap me on the back and say "Great job!"? Like that's going to help at that moment in time. Gabby should have let her be.
Agree! Gabby took 2 small steps, but stayed in the center of the mat. Vika took at least 3 HUGE steps right off of the mats! And she still got a 15.466... I would love to hear a judge justify that scoring
This is a 1 Second shot of an entire meet. We do not know what happened right before or after the shot. Perhaps Gabby was in the middle of speaking and it looks like she is smiling. The people who want to "hate" on Gabby will and the ones that want to support her will.
lol, idk mang, I'm sure she meant well, but komova probably felt like she was having her nose rubbed in it.
ReplyDeleteThat's a mean thing to do.
ReplyDeleteHow is it mean to console someone and congratulate them for being the second best gymnast in the world?!
DeleteThey are not teammates nor friends. Do you actually think Gabby cares abt Vika's feelings?
DeleteAnd it's clearly a major loss for Vika, so she can't be expected to be happy about her silver medal. She's way better than that.
I agree. People, including the cameramen, should have just left her alone.
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DeleteOh brother, it's called 'sportsmanship', not a 'true meeting of souls' or whatever the heck it is you are trying to imply.
This was an individual AA, for all the hugging and whatever, the teammates wanted to beat each other too, not just girls from other countries.
Like I said in another post though, I don't blame Komova for crying - but I also think Gabby did the right thing to come up and congratulate her.
Anon1:17 - Some people in this world do care about other's feelings. You think she was rubbing it in Komova's face? Give me a break.
DeleteNo, I think Vika likely FELT that it was being rubbed in her face. Very different from what you suggested I meant.
DeleteI watched the whole feed. Vika really never gave anyone a chance to congratulate her face to face, nor could she steel herself to offer any congratulations, and it's just the done thing to go through the motions. The closeness between her and Aliya was sweet though. I think the generous interpretation is she's a bit immature. It seems like a lack of mental preparation, since they both had to know they could lose and would still have to face the press and the ceremony.
ReplyDeleteBrutal. And I'm not even a huge Komova fan.
ReplyDeleteOnly 'brutal' if Gabby was saying something obnoxious because Komova has her head in her hands there and would not have been able to see Gabby smiling, only the pat on the shoulder.
DeleteI don't blame anyone for crying when they lose. In the world series, they show grown men in the losing team dugout crying - so what's the big deal if a 16 year old girl cries for coming in second?
Sure its nice when people can put a smile on their face and be grateful for what they have accomplished, but we are all human beings, not Xerox's.
The implied meaning was 'brutal for Komova' not brutal behaviour from Komova. I have a fair amount of sympathy for her here. I think leaving Komova alone for perhaps a bit longer to let her gather herself might have been better.
DeleteThese are young girls in an extreme pressure situation. We don't know what circumstances make up their lives. We certainly do not know what pressures the Russians may have on them, due to social circumstances. It is a different world over there, and a 1rst place medal is so much more than that. It means changes and upgrades for the whole family. Gabby is going on to riches, and we don't know if anything will change for the Russians. Let then all cry for goodness sake. Cry for disappointment/defeat or happiness. I know for a fact we in Canada and the USA have no clue what it is like for them at home. I do know living conditions are not like they are out here. So you know what? Get beyond yourself for a minute and think about it.
ReplyDeleteI bet your bottom dollar they don't live like the Raisman's, and NEVER will. ALL the girls from every country deserve any emotion they have they have all earned to feel whatever they want.
pfft I think we all know how Komova lives seeing as her mother is Vera Kolesnikova. They might not be living in a wealthy Boston suburb but they're not starving. In fact, hardly anyone from urban centers in the booming Chinese economy and oil-rich Russia are starving
DeleteThey do not live by American standards....just saying.
DeleteActually, wealthy Russians pretty much live by and above American standards. American perceptions of the rest of the world are pretty skewed. While Russia is officially a middle-income country, urban centers have economic levels similar to those in "developed" western economies. Less urban areas and particularly regions far from Moscow and St. Petersburg certainly struggle, just like there are areas of the US that struggle, but I don't think Viktoria Komova comes from a particularly low-income family given who her parents are. While there is no way to know without knowing her personally, I would be surprised if she hadn't had a pretty nice life.
DeleteCan Gabby do nothing right for some of you?
ReplyDeleteIt's easy to be a good sportsman when you're the winner.
ReplyDeleteThat is so true.
DeleteStrange - I didn't see Aly Raisman bawling her eyes out pouting in the corner, and she's the one who really missed out today.
DeleteI’m glad you’re sufficiently dead inside to appreciate Aly’s stoicism.
DeleteAnon 2:30: I think that Anon 2:10 is referring to the class that Raisman showed; something that you and the Russians are sorely lacking
DeleteI don't think that picture was meant for that context as some of you might've thought. I am sure a second after this was taken Vika answered Gabby somehow to this. God, you hate Gabby when she headcases, when she is getting better and more confident (or cocky as some of you trolls say), and when she approaches someone in tears. If she didn't approach, and perhaps because of reasons like celebrating with her coach, looking for her mom in the stands, or maybe because she figured Vika wanted to be alone, trolls would've been hating her too. Gimmie a break.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad Gabby doesn't know anyone here so that makes her life much better
ReplyDeleteI'm getting really tired of these Russian antics, I had thought the drama and unsportsmanlike conduct would have ended with Khorkina retiring but not so.
ReplyDeleteApparently not happy with merely snatching off her medal and holding it in her hand as she did last year Komova actually shoved the medal in her pocket as if it were a used tissue.
I know that gold is the goal but her behavior is disgusting.
And enough with all this their only 17/16 foolishness these girls have been competing in international competitions since they were 10/11 and should know how to accept silver if not with a smile then with a straight face.
Agreed on every point. Her behavior takes away from her beautiful gymnastics.
DeleteHere's an article on what Komova and Mustafina actually said after the loss http://www.examiner.com/article/viktoria-komova-i-am-proud-about-what-i-ve-done-today. She cried a little. They haven't been run through the bullshit PR lessons like the US girls have. I have no idea why people place so much emphasis on smiling like a fucking idiot while you're dying inside.
DeleteWell said Anon 2.21
DeleteAbsolutely Anon 2:05
DeletePathetic antics indeed - I find it amazing how such behavior would be viewed as incredibly rude or as acting like an 'arrogant American' if the US were to behave like that - But somehow it is forgiven when it comes from the Russians - Oh well, what goes around comes around...
DeleteThese are teenagers. Gabby was trying to comfort Komova, but it's awkward, esp at that age. And Komova is--what--17? Even an adult would be crushed to work so hard for years and then come up short. Let her cry. It's a human emotion. I like it when Olympians act like humans instead of PR-trained robots.
DeleteOh oh Haters and their haterade! Could they have been more wrong? Nope. The more hate the better Gabby got. LMAO
ReplyDeleteIM SO SICK OF TROLLS and people who are like "omg stop hating gabbyyyyy" gabby is a pain in the butt, quite arrogant and often overstored. However she probably deserved to win here. now everyone stop bitching
ReplyDeleteGabby took 2 steps to the side on vault and got way over scored. Russian girl underscored on Floor Routine.
ReplyDeleteThe fix was in from the get go. They had to have their Diversity Queen win.
Does Komova even speak English? If not, I can completely understand her taking this the wrong way.
ReplyDeleteLMAO if anybody was overscored in these competitions, it was the Russian team of Komova and Mustafina. Gabby won fair and square
ReplyDeleteThank you, Anon 4:27, for stating what is obvious to everyone except a disturbed few - Both of the Russians have been vastly overscored throughout this competition - It is only through the incredible talent and mental strength of the Americans that the Russians were not automatically offered berths at the top of the podium
DeleteHonestly, I'm American, and if I had just lost something I'd trained my entire life for, I'd be in tears. And if the winner came over to me as I'm crying my eyes out with a huge smile on their face to do...what, exactly? Tap me on the back and say "Great job!"? Like that's going to help at that moment in time. Gabby should have let her be.
ReplyDeleteBlaspherion ... You got your girls confused. Vika was the one who took the steps to the side. Know your facts before you spout nonsense.
ReplyDeleteAgree! Gabby took 2 small steps, but stayed in the center of the mat. Vika took at least 3 HUGE steps right off of the mats! And she still got a 15.466... I would love to hear a judge justify that scoring
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Deleteuhhh sweetie? that ain't centered
Honestly I think this is a beautiful picture. I respect both of them so much!
ReplyDeleteThis is a 1 Second shot of an entire meet. We do not know what happened right before or after the shot. Perhaps Gabby was in the middle of speaking and it looks like she is smiling. The people who want to "hate" on Gabby will and the ones that want to support her will.
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