tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post6305535764612630824..comments2024-03-27T00:19:55.641-07:00Comments on Aunt Joyce's Ice Cream Stand: Beautiful Gymnastics: From Russia, With LoveOlympicEffecthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11708554152461551887noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-11492542828249056542012-03-19T08:21:23.071-07:002012-03-19T08:21:23.071-07:00yeah martha is a robot. I think old Martha has for...yeah martha is a robot. I think old Martha has forgotten where she came from. cant believe usa still depend on her. dont they have an american team coordinatorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-87014295024814830402012-03-12T06:29:12.342-07:002012-03-12T06:29:12.342-07:00Go Russia!Go Russia!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-1260603857344674952012-02-25T18:58:04.038-08:002012-02-25T18:58:04.038-08:00This was not the Russian Nationals.This was not the Russian Nationals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-38545694539940320452012-02-25T12:20:00.177-08:002012-02-25T12:20:00.177-08:00Watch Brandy Johnson perform on FX at the 1988 Oly...Watch Brandy Johnson perform on FX at the 1988 Olympics where she was able to do a double turn with no pause whatsoever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-92032504739871710202012-02-23T12:45:11.197-08:002012-02-23T12:45:11.197-08:00If Russian nationals is any indication, Russia nee...If Russian nationals is any indication, Russia needs a miracle. Komova has massive confidence problems on beam, Rusty Musty is out of shape, and Nabieva still has terrible form. And that's just for starters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-42503581127564638392012-02-23T12:43:18.466-08:002012-02-23T12:43:18.466-08:00Izbasa injured her knee (possible torn ligament). ...Izbasa injured her knee (possible torn ligament). If she's out, Romania would be lucky to place fifth or sixth in London. http://www.examiner.com/gymnastics-in-national/sandra-izabasa-injures-knee-diagnosis-unknownAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-70136743117920074192012-02-23T10:06:57.994-08:002012-02-23T10:06:57.994-08:00I hate to drag this discussion out of the playgrou...I hate to drag this discussion out of the playground, but its not all about Russia v US. It would be foolish to rule out the Olympic champions. They've not had the best quad, but if they can rediscover the ability to hit, they could be a factor. Additionally, in an Olympic year they typically have a new 'senior' who comes out of the woodwork from relative obscurity to miraculously fill a gap in the team. He Kexin emerged at just about this point in 2008. Who's to say her successor won't do just as well as she did?Stoi!http://www.davaistoi.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-3601210079176620052012-02-20T17:48:24.152-08:002012-02-20T17:48:24.152-08:00Why, yes, because the Romanians abound in artistry...Why, yes, because the Romanians abound in artistry and creativity, and the current crop of Chinese girls are SO consistent! Whatever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-87498778047243018942012-02-20T13:29:11.571-08:002012-02-20T13:29:11.571-08:00Pff USA will not win a floor or beam title this ye...Pff USA will not win a floor or beam title this year. I would rather see a Chinese or Romanian over any Americans win those titles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-87219934094234874582012-02-20T11:29:08.115-08:002012-02-20T11:29:08.115-08:00Last I checked komova wobbles and bobbles so talk ...Last I checked komova wobbles and bobbles so talk artistry and don't get me started with a musty what a mess outside of bars. Well see who wins floor this year it's going to be Jordyn or alyplus beam Jordyn or Kyla will win most importantly USA will win goldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-48644240698529201682012-02-20T08:50:30.450-08:002012-02-20T08:50:30.450-08:00I can't wait to see USA wipe the floor with Ru...I can't wait to see USA wipe the floor with Russia in London.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-10285205349231694442012-02-19T13:39:40.226-08:002012-02-19T13:39:40.226-08:00Anonymous at 1.12, no we can't because its com...Anonymous at 1.12, no we can't because its complete rubbish. If Americans were being called unartistic simply for being Americans, we would also expect that criticism to be applied to Liukin, Maroney, Vega, Li and Larson. But of course, it isn't. There's a reason for that. And this would seem to suggest that it does, in fact, matter when Americans take ballet lessons. Its almost like if you're an American and you take enough of them, people will notice.<br /><br />I realise that accepting this means engaging with the idea that people are critical of some of the Americans for lacking artistry because they actually lack it, but its true nonetheless. You could focus on how much better the US are on vault than everyone else, if you want something to reassure you. I did a blog post on it a while ago, as it happens.Stoi!http://www.davaistoi.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-29406510274701202342012-02-19T13:38:26.062-08:002012-02-19T13:38:26.062-08:00@Anon 1:12PM - You do realize that some of us are ...@Anon 1:12PM - You do realize that some of us are actual Americans who hate our own gymnastics right? Yes there are anti-Americans but they are right that Americans have no elegance/artistry and style. And please, some ppl likes Sabrina Vega on FX, please hell no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-73366147036507593062012-02-19T13:25:30.532-08:002012-02-19T13:25:30.532-08:00Hehe well Afanasyeva and Sui did beat Aly on FX in...Hehe well Afanasyeva and Sui did beat Aly on FX in 2011. Aly would have won if "artistry" was not included in the c.o.p, just my opinion. And the whole lets look at the past for artistry is very annoying. In this modern day the Russian girls are still miles more artistic than the Americans, ha! I just finished watching Bross at the WOGA meet and man does she move like a typical American ROBOT. It's sad that Ohashi is from WOGA because I can see a little bit of Bross's robotic flapping in Ohashi's movements. Come on Mr. Liukin aren't you from the Soviet days? American artistry is disappointing.<br /><br />@Stoi 12:16 PM that is my actual dream team!!! Anna Dementyeva needs a new floor music though, ugh. She got like the top highest FX score here and then Afan. No doubt Musty will probs be on the team. I actually hope she will peak and be in shape for the Olympics as an all-arounder. I mean come on Mustafina, Afanasyeva is still in gorgeous shape <3. I will throw a hissy fit if Afan does not make the team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-29770573569748488902012-02-19T13:12:35.069-08:002012-02-19T13:12:35.069-08:00LOL, the truth is, it wouldn't matter if the U...LOL, the truth is, it wouldn't matter if the U.S. girls took ballet classes 24/7 and were good enough to dance in the NYC Ballet. People - especially on this board - have always had a bias toward the Russian 'mystique.' Much of it is rooted in nostalgia for the old Soviet team - the Mostepanovas, the Omelianchiks, etc., along with the 'diva' factor associated with Russian gymnasts. Or maybe they enjoyed the "Cold War" drama of pitting the U.S. against the Big Red Machine. The U.S. will always be criticized simply because of who they are - Americans. Can we admit that and move on??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-16346837183232997882012-02-19T13:01:33.418-08:002012-02-19T13:01:33.418-08:00Nobody said the lack of artistry did hurt the US i...Nobody said the lack of artistry did hurt the US in Tokyo. However, its not just about the code, its also about non application of it. The code does allow for artistry deductions to be taken on floor. A full point. But its fairly obvious they're not being applied. There would be no explanation for Raisman's success otherwise- although it might be worth noting that the 2010 EF judges had her winning floor until the reference judge stepped in. I think it's a fair bet that the artistry deductions had something to do with it: it wasn't her D score and there was nothing wrong with the tumbling. <br /><br />Its Stoi btw, www.davaistoi.wordpress.comStoi!http://www.davaistoi.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-27536218944512387742012-02-19T12:41:22.464-08:002012-02-19T12:41:22.464-08:00Stoll, the point is, their supposed lack of artist...Stoll, the point is, their supposed lack of artistry didn't hurt the U.S. at all, as evidenced by the large margin of victory. Until the CODE is changed to put a higher value on artistry, it's fairly pointless to go over and above what is required in that area.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-71103525274225344882012-02-19T12:39:13.387-08:002012-02-19T12:39:13.387-08:00Honestly, people rave about the so-called 'art...Honestly, people rave about the so-called 'artistry' of the Russians, but I just don't see it. There is no expression or passion in the movements and their choreography is certainly not groundbreaking. For an example of artistic, watch the videos of the The 1989 Soviet World team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-14078144571231602342012-02-19T12:25:19.217-08:002012-02-19T12:25:19.217-08:00Anonymous at 12.14 is another example of people co...Anonymous at 12.14 is another example of people confusing artistry with consistency. The US were miles better than Russia at worlds, absolutely dominant. They did not have miles more artistry. Pointing this out does not mean a person is on the Russia crack. It means they know what artistry is. <br /><br />A team can lose and still be better in some ways than the team that beat them. Like how the US were better on vault in 2008 than China, even though they weren't better overall. And Romania were more consistent in Rotterdam than any medal winning team, but lost because they weren't as strong in other ways.Stoi!http://www.davaistoi.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-5163900953555961882012-02-19T12:16:13.712-08:002012-02-19T12:16:13.712-08:00Afanasyeva and Dementieva could certainly be on th...Afanasyeva and Dementieva could certainly be on the same team. It would require Komova and Mustafina to look decent on vault, but its a possibility.<br /><br />VT- Afanasyeva, Komova, Mustafina<br />UB- Grishina, Mustafina, Komova<br />BB- Mustafina, Dementieva, Komova/Grishina<br />FX- Afanasyeva, whichever 2 others score best in prelims<br /><br />This lineup leaves them with a potentially quite weak vault leadoff, but otherwise it might be pretty competitive. It also allows them to use their two most consistent recent beamers: Dementieva is wobbly, but she stays on.<br /><br />Mustafina is looking a bit heavy, but frankly they need her. They could do without her on floor, but probably not on anything else. If she isn't capable of her 2010 heights, she could focus only on bars, beam and getting her DTY consistent. No floor, Amanar or second vault needed.Stoi!http://www.davaistoi.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-65215084268982868742012-02-19T12:14:20.922-08:002012-02-19T12:14:20.922-08:00Have people forgotten that the U.S. beat Russia by...Have people forgotten that the U.S. beat Russia by four points at Worlds? Obviously, they are doing something right. You can have all the artistry in the world, but if you're a fumbling, inconsistent mess in the rest of your performance (like Russia was), then looking like a ballerina doesn't mean @!#$.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-32246105550427821842012-02-19T12:11:55.506-08:002012-02-19T12:11:55.506-08:00LOL, looks the Russian Kool-Aid drinkers are back....LOL, looks the Russian Kool-Aid drinkers are back. Sorry, but Komova is no ballerina. She has no expression and no sense of the music at all, and no passion whatsover. The reason she seems 'artistic' is because of her body type. Once she hits puberty, she is done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-4379313658922512602012-02-19T10:45:48.281-08:002012-02-19T10:45:48.281-08:00Afanasyeva or Dementyeva will be Russia's AA a...Afanasyeva or Dementyeva will be Russia's AA at the Olympics, if they make it hehe. I'm sorry but Mustafina looks too out of shape. She looks more out of shape than when she was at Voronin. Mustafina gurl betta get in shape yo.<br /><br />I'm actually starting to believe that Afan & Demy could both be on the same team. I'm thinking Sidorova will not make the cut. Sidorova is not as good as many people seems to think.<br /><br />USA gymnastics has NO artistry. They move like shit. They are so robotic it looks like they are a robot. Do they learn their dance from an actual robot?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-80690006869801941882012-02-19T08:55:39.219-08:002012-02-19T08:55:39.219-08:00Several comments here confuse artistry with consis...Several comments here confuse artistry with consistency. They're not the same thing, nor even linked, and the one doesn't require the other. Wieber has a lot of things going for her gymnastics: consistency, power, strength, athleticism (Raisman too, come to that). What she does not have is any artistry, at all. Its silly to pretend otherwise. Her floor is a good example of this: they accept what she is and what she isn't, and have been able to put together a fun, peppy and artistry free set accordingly.<br /><br />Regarding bars, Komova swings better than Mustafina. I'm not sure she's the better bars worker as a whole, though.Stoihttp://www.davaistoi.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-16920898451982709552012-02-18T21:31:22.684-08:002012-02-18T21:31:22.684-08:00@anon 6:18 PM - It's true that Mustafina is st...@anon 6:18 PM - It's true that Mustafina is still one of the best bar workers in the world but Komova is still better than Mustafina. I'm actually scared that Mustafina might not be an AA for Russia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com