tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post599640792685875132..comments2024-03-27T00:19:55.641-07:00Comments on Aunt Joyce's Ice Cream Stand: This and ThatOlympicEffecthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11708554152461551887noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-50064764101601686932010-08-04T00:16:14.731-07:002010-08-04T00:16:14.731-07:00What a lovely voice Yuna has... So much talent pac...What a lovely voice Yuna has... So much talent packed in such a wonderful package.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-73391245529845196872010-08-03T13:36:41.887-07:002010-08-03T13:36:41.887-07:00I have the perfect title for Johnny's book:
St...I have the perfect title for Johnny's book:<br />Stans and Slores: The Johnny Weir Story<br /><br />Now THAT, I might read. Seriously, thanks for asking what a "stan" is. I keep seeing the term and was too embarrassed to ask what it meant. Duh.Anonycatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-38223212786858493002010-08-03T12:30:44.483-07:002010-08-03T12:30:44.483-07:00stan= stalker + fan; made famous by Eminem's s...stan= stalker + fan; made famous by Eminem's songAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-56985199471372891582010-08-03T12:09:43.326-07:002010-08-03T12:09:43.326-07:00Have I missed something? What the hell is a "...Have I missed something? What the hell is a "stan"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-66131812120399285252010-08-03T11:51:13.972-07:002010-08-03T11:51:13.972-07:00"There are things in life more deserving of y..."There are things in life more deserving of your energy and passion than stanning Johnny Weir to the Nth. Instead of being engulfed by anger over some blogger's opinions, maybe you should step back, take a deep breath, and appreciate life."<br /><br />Hear, hear! <br /><br />The Johnny stans try to claim they're aren't obsessed and are rational. Thinking about Johnny Weir everyday and wanting to defend his actions everywhere isn't obsessive? Constantly reading a blog that you abhor is rational?<br /><br />You all keep coming back to this blog. Dave must be doing something right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-67896088212326126482010-08-03T11:14:17.296-07:002010-08-03T11:14:17.296-07:00*slow clap* When obvious points are missed by the ...*slow clap* When obvious points are missed by the "omg Johnny fans are crazy" camp, I marvel at the depth of density displayed.<br /><br />Just accept there was a fuck up and move on, sheesh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-10898383995514487612010-08-03T11:04:26.261-07:002010-08-03T11:04:26.261-07:00AJ, please don't let these Johnny cray-crays g...AJ, please don't let these Johnny cray-crays get to you. Have pity on them, they clearly need to have their meds readjusted or possibly 5150 holds imposed on their asses. Just don't feed into their hypersensitivity and their need to be indignant. <br /><br />This blog is one of the first ones I check in the morning. While I don't always agree w/ your opinions, and I've posted comments to that effect occasionally, this blog has always been educational yet entertaining.<br /><br />For the people taking this way personally and seriously, you really need to get a life or at least put things into proper perspective. I am a pediatric ICU RN at a major teaching hospital, I deal w/ some intense and tragic shit every time I go to work. There are things in life more deserving of your energy and passion than stanning Johnny Weir to the Nth. Instead of being engulfed by anger over some blogger's opinions, maybe you should step back, take a deep breath, and appreciate life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-51753746273246946092010-08-03T09:59:55.029-07:002010-08-03T09:59:55.029-07:00Wow - you all need to get a life.
AJ, I think yo...Wow - you all need to get a life. <br /><br />AJ, I think your blog is great. I read it all the time and I wouldn't change a thing. Do these people seriously have nothing better to do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-67665144884825309592010-08-03T02:21:13.143-07:002010-08-03T02:21:13.143-07:00Well, frankly, I hope Johnny skates and skates bea...Well, frankly, I hope Johnny skates and skates beautifully until well into his 60s, just as Baryshnikov is still dancing occasionally. If he doesn't do that, or even if he does, I wish him all the best there is in every single one of his endeavors. Why not? Why should I or anyone wish him any ill?<br /><br />I just love how so many have an opinion about what Johnny should or should not do, who he should or should not have as his agent. Yes, it really is all very amusing, at this point. This what I know as truth in my life, Johnny has a Higher Power and I'm not it!<br /><br />Any disappointments I may feel because of his choices are my problem, not his, not his mother's, not his agent's his friends or anyone else's. I certainly am not going to dis Johnny for any choices he makes. It is his life for crying out loud. <br /><br />Olympic Effect, regarding Johnny's comments "about how none of the USFSA or USOC watched his practices at the Olympics and that they were there to support everyone else. Did he forget that he spoke out against the USFSA's top judge during the games? " It is my understanding that certain officials/ medical personnel are required by contract to be present at every skater's rehearsals regardless of statements or comments made by any skater. Thus, I would have to wonder if the lack of any official's presence wouldn't have some legal merit to pursue for not keeping to contractual obligations.<br /><br />Johnny is Johnny. Quirky, brilliant, driven, sensitive, fabulous. Yes he makes mistakes. Big whoop de do, most of us have in our lives. It may be that he will never return to competitive skating, won't be a success in the world of fashion, may end up sad and broken, somewhere:-( But gee whiz, I sure hope not. I hope he can rein in his creative genius enough to be fabulous at something other than skating.<br /><br />As for the ice shows.... well there aren't exactly any big headliners happening in the U.S., except perhaps Disney on Ice:-( Johnny is going to be skating in several shows in other countries over the next few months. All countries where he has big fan bases and folks are anxious to see him.<br /><br />Ms. Linger, weren't you kicked off another board for being someone who kept stirring up trouble? <br /><br />Well, I'm getting up there in years. Been a fan of figure skating for about 50 years now, and a fan of ballet for about 45 years. Seen lots of really good skaters and dancers come and go. The best ones, the most brilliant ones, the ones no one forgets, are also the most brilliant quirky and eccentric. Generally quite poorly understood by the press and those in the power echelons of skating or ballet.PumaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05393845983716833961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-40483053847835429892010-08-03T01:46:15.768-07:002010-08-03T01:46:15.768-07:00Lol @ entire thread.Lol @ entire thread.Claire Molokohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00047464695591813899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-18809485440128021692010-08-03T00:43:56.693-07:002010-08-03T00:43:56.693-07:00anon 8:20 and 8:48
I think you are the same poste...anon 8:20 and 8:48<br /><br />I think you are the same poster. Aren´t you?<br /><br />Finally a level-headed comment without any hate,offenses or accusations to either side of the equation. That have been very sincere responses which I agree completely with. Very eloquent. <br /><br />Edit: I believe I´m OCD regarding to any grammar or spelling mistakes I make. Sigh.germansoulmatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12341330061833027528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-42318124530370319702010-08-03T00:37:26.835-07:002010-08-03T00:37:26.835-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.germansoulmatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12341330061833027528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-23675878365004395062010-08-02T21:03:43.631-07:002010-08-02T21:03:43.631-07:00WheresMyKoppy a.k.a. AuntInAz you are just as sad ...WheresMyKoppy a.k.a. AuntInAz you are just as sad as Laura Linger. Don't start. You are one of the many examples of blind and obsessed fans. Leave Dave the fuck alone if you hate his blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-65313075891689814142010-08-02T20:48:39.386-07:002010-08-02T20:48:39.386-07:00Olympic Effect- (sorry, I'm the anon poster fr...Olympic Effect- (sorry, I'm the anon poster from 2 comments above- can't seem to post in another profile because the option isn't lettign me)again I agree with you to an extent. <br /><br />None of the sane, rational people who like Johnny argue that he's perfect or doesn't make mistakes. Perhaps your annoyance with those that do and send you messages all the time defending him to the death are grating on you to swing a little too extreme in the opposite direction? He's NOT perfect. He's got no filter, often doesn't think about what he says and the impact it will have and has made plenty of mistakes. What I do like is that he is the type to admit this and has done so repeatedly. <br /><br />No question that things got to his head post-olympics. It's sort of hard to see how it couldn't seeing as how people were stopping him on the street and telling him he was God (practically). It seems like he wasn't used to that adoration attention and most often just got hate in the past. I think though that things media-wise (your wall of "johnnyfied crap")have calmed down lately and he seems to honestly be spending more time laying low at home with friends then out gallavanting in search of media. <br /><br />When I think about what a goofball he can be and the things he's said in the past I do have admit that with all of the media and interviews he did this year he really did handle himself well. There weren't any major issues or things that reflected poorly on him (minus the tired "slore war" with Evan and Chelsea lately). In fact he seemed to really try to be classy and well-behaved and for someone like Johnny that's a big accomplishment. <br /><br />Maybe you feel his head is too big right now and you're the only one to assume the noble role of "knocking it down to size." However, he really isn't doing anything wrong. He's persuing projects that have come to him, and just trying to find his own path. You're acting like he's fucked up and there's really nothing that has convinved me that he has yet. While he may have a personality that evokes extreme reactions, you can't routinely string someone up based on that alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-60860599845507138502010-08-02T20:46:52.995-07:002010-08-02T20:46:52.995-07:00"There is a specific type of behavior regardi..."There is a specific type of behavior regarding a specific personality type in the gymnastics and skating world that is somewhat different than other forums. Even the moderators are controlling in a different manner."<br /><br />Care to elaborate? I haven't seen anything here, on _skating, or the major figure skating forums that doesn't exist in other online communities I've been involved in and wasn't more pronounced and insane.Mashanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-29770139546835425962010-08-02T20:30:44.129-07:002010-08-02T20:30:44.129-07:00I post about Johnny as I post about all skaters, g...I post about Johnny as I post about all skaters, gymnasts, divers, etc who are relevant and topical. I snark on just about everyone, even posted my friend's joke about 'Fields of Bronze.' <br /><br />There are aspects of Johnny that do grate on people. He just told one of the heads of my skating club about how none of the USFSA or USOC watched his practices at the Olympics and that they were there to support everyone else. Did he forget that he spoke out against the USFSA's top judge during the games? While Inman wasn't on the panel, he is very influential in the USFSA's political dealings. Following the games, there has just been a wall of Johnnyified crap that is absurd and almost laughable. If you've read the blog for some time, you'll know that I've been a supporter and even taken heat for being one. The last time Johnny really got like this was post Torino (with regards to the fame whoring, hell he let the fame get to him IN Torino) and we all saw how fabulous the 2006-2007 season was.<br /><br />Masha---There is a specific type of behavior regarding a specific personality type in the gymnastics and skating world that is somewhat different than other forums. Even the moderators are controlling in a different manner.OlympicEffecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11708554152461551887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-70565872885280250732010-08-02T20:25:54.769-07:002010-08-02T20:25:54.769-07:00Anonymous said...
"Alex Forrest and I actuall...Anonymous said...<br />"Alex Forrest and I actually spoke about just that and we think a lot of it has to do with OCD people being attracted to judged sports. It brings all sorts of added drama to already dramatic online communities."<br /><br />Oh honey, no. If you think online figure skating communities are significantly more dramatic than your average online community, you haven't got the first clue about what real internet drama is.Mashanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-1431886605639052642010-08-02T20:20:54.471-07:002010-08-02T20:20:54.471-07:00Olympic Effect- your points are well-stated but I ...Olympic Effect- your points are well-stated but I think this is where some people are taking issue with your views. You're entitled to your opinions of course, it's your blog. Johnny has never ONCE stated that he wants a career in pro skating. Doing a few shows for fun this year with a routine that many have begged him to bring back isn't a crime and it doesn't mean he wants to continue doing this either. He has a lot of projects and avenues he's exploring and I can't believe for a second that you're privy to every single thing he's exploring. I know it's sad to come to grips with the fact that he may not be a show skater because you and many others feel he could be awesome at it if he really busted his ass. The potential is there. However I think you need to understand that he's never expressed that interest to really go in that direction beyond this year. Perhaps he may, but he may not and that IS his right. It doesn't make him a joke and worthless if that ends up being his decision. Yes in the past he's had financial struggles. Something tells me this year is different for him. He's done a shitload of photoshoots, and has lots of projects going on in Japan, his book deal.... I think it's safe to say money's ok for him right now. <br /><br />I realize your interest in him exists only in skating when he works hard and trains. That's fine. There are many who love him beyond that for the inspiration they feel he gives them. You feel he's a lazy famewhore with nothing beyond skating to offer. Again, that is your opinion but if it does turn out that Johnny decides his skating days are over aside from the odd show here and there then why bother continuing to write about him with nothing but trite condecension? What's the point? He's clearly moved beyond your interest scope, so move on. Stop posting about how pathetic he is, his choices, his laziness, the endless mistakes you feel he's made and continues to make in life and save yourself the grief of having to listen to some Johnny crazies, and some honestly sane, rational people who like and respect him and take issue with your posts. At this point they come off as harping on him and bitter. <br /><br />Yes, there are loons. Some who are making the rest of us wonder why they haven't been committed. Not everyone who likes and respects Johnny is that and you generalize too much. There are some that do feel Johnny has potential and talent to really offer something special in other fields and want to support him to see where he goes. Why must you make it seem like such a crime? He may do nothing. Again, that is HIS choice and decisions to make, not yours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-47766574743194109472010-08-02T20:08:02.374-07:002010-08-02T20:08:02.374-07:00OE: right on. And stop letting people goad you in...OE: right on. And stop letting people goad you into explaining yourself and how you blog. There is absolutely no need to "post credits" when it comes to YouTube videos, because just one extra click of the mouse takes you to the YT page with all of the identifying information about the clip. Anyone who has done any serious blogging knows that.<br /><br />I can't agree with you more about Johnny needing a Galina in his life. He has too many around him who are just too impressed with his Being Johnny Weir. (This includes his much-venerated mother.) He needs someone who doesn't buy into his self-imposed dramas and will crack the whip when necessary. I formed this opinion solely by watching his reality show, FYI.<br /><br />I'm going to blogroll you. :)laura lingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12080923172854597996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-48804466772419829832010-08-02T19:56:19.280-07:002010-08-02T19:56:19.280-07:00Lots of people attack Johnny all the time. Lots o...Lots of people attack Johnny all the time. Lots of people attack every skater. I was a Johnny supporter, but one needs to be realistic. <br /><br />As for people critiquing him, I know several people who comment and are real about him. It is hardly one person. <br /><br />The page long messages trying to explain Johnny's every whim would be funny, if they weren't scary. It almost misses the old days when the Johnny ubers just would get pissed if anyone suggested he was gay. This new breed of loons is too much. <br /><br />There are definite issues with how Johnny's pro career is going. As another skater's mother said, when the Lady Gaga and 15 mins are up, where will he be? He was intimidated by FIT, never took college courses (though he lived near UDel and even trained there), and has burned far too many bridges to ever work as a coach or choreographer with the USFSA. While he is interesting for a skater, it may not be enough to be a lasting media personality. As a show skater, one needs to work their tail off to get out in the big markets these days. Johnny himself whined on his show about having a hard time paying the bills. <br /><br />Most of my critiques aren't about Johnny, but rather his management. He needs a Galina to set him straight, not a hanger-on.OlympicEffecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11708554152461551887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-29729534187565180162010-08-02T19:41:20.351-07:002010-08-02T19:41:20.351-07:00I am not a blind fan of anyone, but if you are a J...I am not a blind fan of anyone, but if you are a Johnny supporter you have a funny way of showing it. <br /><br />INteresting you made the comment 'it is odd that it is always the same fans who get in a tizzy'; because that's on both sides. A lot of the 'anonymous' email comments attacking or critiquing Johnny are from the same person because this person has been able to continuously get away with it on your blog. And the sad thing is they think they are fooling people.WheresMyKoppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07353710657038161169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-9948482270295828152010-08-02T19:01:34.996-07:002010-08-02T19:01:34.996-07:00Hey everyone. I probably should've cited the ...Hey everyone. I probably should've cited the post. I have known that the song was going to be released soon, but I did read the post where his mom said it would be released once a video is filmed. That is the part I didn't know. I follow Revolucian on twitter and if you know me, RuPaul's 'Supermodel' is my life---so I'm actually excited about the video. This could be ridiculous, in a good way. My friend who works for Tara did tell me last week that the song would be soon. When I do This and Thats, I tend to write down all of the bullet points on a piece of paper and I was in a rush this morning and didn't link everything. I've made sure to link Ice Network articles and almost every article I summarize. I've made an effort on that front. I don't think citing youtube videos is necessary by any means due to the embedding being the person's actual site, it links to the person's youtube channel, it gives them the views for the video and is exposure for them. Citing youtube videos isn't customary.<br /><br />It is somewhat of a shame that the online communities have to be so ugly. Alex Forrest and I actually spoke about just that and we think a lot of it has to do with OCD people being attracted to judged sports. It brings all sorts of added drama to already dramatic online communities. <br /><br />I had been linked to the post and the vids by two separate people from my formspring. I am lucky to have numerous people who send me links that appear in my formspring inbox and email inbox when I check in the morning. It is much appreciated. <br /><br />This and That is intended to be an amalgam of the news of the day, quick and concise. It isn't generally anything I get on my own---those tend to be in separate posts about specific topics (unless I otherwise state it.) <br /><br />I linked to the post.<br /><br />It is odd that it is always the same fans who get in a tizzy. I've been a Johnny supporter for a long time because I tend to like his style of skating, but I try not to be a blind fan of anyone out of principle.OlympicEffecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11708554152461551887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-14569695813295192802010-08-02T16:34:56.854-07:002010-08-02T16:34:56.854-07:00You put it on YouTube; it's pretty much fair g...You put it on YouTube; it's pretty much fair game for anyone to post. Are you new to the Internet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-11844027245010654272010-08-02T16:15:33.566-07:002010-08-02T16:15:33.566-07:00I'm a bit confused. How can four international...I'm a bit confused. How can four international shows plus a smattering of local shows be a negative thing for anyone, let alone a guy who is not focusing solely on skating at the moment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-79450640979409742852010-08-02T16:14:03.524-07:002010-08-02T16:14:03.524-07:00everyone loves poker face by johnny weir.everyone loves poker face by johnny weir.caseyedwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11427533465291202121noreply@blogger.com