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And he's 21 years old (as is Madi). Another 3 years and I'm willing to bet this couple is going to be spectacular.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-75193501615532387712011-12-07T00:25:37.528-08:002011-12-07T00:25:37.528-08:00Tessa was seen sitting next to a skier at Skate Ca...Tessa was seen sitting next to a skier at Skate Canada (he sat with both her and Scott's families), and he tweeted congratulations to her and Scott, which then turned into "Tessa is for sure dating this skier" on the internet. He may simply be a friend or family friend of either her or Scott, nothing has ever been confirmed. But of course fans don't care about that, they just act as though it's a fact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-40217693753135835792011-12-06T19:45:39.283-08:002011-12-06T19:45:39.283-08:00Tessa is currently dating a skier (I think he'...Tessa is currently dating a skier (I think he's a skier.) <br /><br />Question for Anon. Nov. 29 7:53<br /><br />If V/M shouldn't have won gold in Vancouver, than who should have?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-23664080117700092442011-12-04T23:10:18.589-08:002011-12-04T23:10:18.589-08:00Whoa, you have to watch ice dancing for work? What...Whoa, you have to watch ice dancing for work? What type of job is this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-7880884108287121202011-11-30T23:08:10.612-08:002011-11-30T23:08:10.612-08:00Is Tessa still "doing it" with David Pel...Is Tessa still "doing it" with David Pelletier?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-50430799072958413532011-11-29T19:53:27.108-08:002011-11-29T19:53:27.108-08:00Ice dance is fixed. If the Canadians are winning i...Ice dance is fixed. If the Canadians are winning it is because they are paying off the judges.<br /><br />Things do not change over night. What now because the Canadians are winning the fixing of the sport is somehow now not happening? spare me.<br /><br />I hate ice dancing and have no loyalty to either team but I have to watch it for work (if I want to get paid)<br /><br />the Canadians didn't deserve the last Olympic title they were overscored. If the Olympic were not in Canada they would not have lost.<br /><br />This sport should be taken out of the Olympics. It's fixed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-47593165086288338262011-11-07T16:35:09.085-08:002011-11-07T16:35:09.085-08:00This crap about Meryl's dangling leg has gotte...This crap about Meryl's dangling leg has gotten old. Come up with a better excuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-80692195537067104592011-11-06T19:25:59.139-08:002011-11-06T19:25:59.139-08:00OT: Yeah, because I really like the beauty of Mery...OT: Yeah, because I really like the beauty of Meryl's dangling free leg. smh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-22039927120185321682011-11-06T10:34:05.823-08:002011-11-06T10:34:05.823-08:00Perhaps D/W are cautious to avoid injury? It's...Perhaps D/W are cautious to avoid injury? It's their own hard work, not just "fortunate". Otherwise, V/M were "fortunate" in 07-08 when Dub/Lauzon and Denkova/Staviski were gone, DomShabs was out due to him being crippled, and Tanith fell.<br /><br />Also, how do you know D/W don't have injuries that they just don't complain about to the press? Not saying they do, but it's a possibility. <br /><br />I think it's clear V/M have been hiding a lot (she keeps claiming she's pain free but then she's not) and no one may ever know the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-326322218754769242011-11-06T10:00:52.824-08:002011-11-06T10:00:52.824-08:00I'm the person who brought up D/W's relati...I'm the person who brought up D/W's relatively injury-free track record. I am not a Virtue and Moir fan. I think it is noticeable, however, that one team has missed considerably more time as seniors than the other. Actually, D/W have been very fortunate in this regard compared to many teams in recent years, including DomShabs, B/A, DelSchoes (even before Isabelle became pregnant), P/B, F/S, the Kerrs, and when they were still together, S/B. And in 2008-9, they showed up in great shape for sure, but also had higher ranked teams withdraw from most of their events. And if we're going back all the way to junior days, hey, the Zars used to beat D/W but the latter were held back by Roman Zaretsky having to do military service. Try doing elite training in Israel! Ha. <br /><br />As for their good health - is it good genes? Good conditioning? Pure luck? Or maybe just a combination thereof. D/W fans, don't be so twitchy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-18411100363792423242011-11-06T09:19:52.072-08:002011-11-06T09:19:52.072-08:00I totally agree with Anon@ 8:57AM. Voir are such s...I totally agree with Anon@ 8:57AM. Voir are such sore losers. They came back last season saying they were fit as a fiddle only to hype up their injury some more when they lost at 4CC. It appears that it is OK with everyone when they want to pull out their injury card now and then as the circumstance warrants it to discredit Marlie's achievements.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-8915897595356138452011-11-06T08:57:33.930-08:002011-11-06T08:57:33.930-08:00"I'm sure D/W are super hard workers, but..."I'm sure D/W are super hard workers, but they have been very fortunate that they've not had to deal with the sort of health issues some of the other dance teams have had. V/M may have had their program longer, but they've had their training interrupted time and again over several years because of Tessa's medical problems. Who knows how this has affected V/M. "<br /><br />Maybe you are unaware, but D/W have had their share of injury problems as well. Charlie broke his ankle during the middle of the 2004-2005 season. The lost months of training time, missed jr Nationals and jr Worlds and watch V/M move up the ranks. Charlie was also injured heading into the 2007-2008 season, so they got off to a very slow start at Skate America and had less time to work on their programs than V/M, who took off like a rocket that season. They just did not publicize their injuries as much. So let's stop the poor Tessa and Scott talk. They have not suffered any more of a relative disadvantage than D/W.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-86623287791663832022011-11-04T21:43:55.472-07:002011-11-04T21:43:55.472-07:00A bit of panic? Hahaha, not quite. But I guess you...A bit of panic? Hahaha, not quite. But I guess you can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better or something. <br /><br />This is going to be a long season and from the tone of the majority of the posts here, it seems like fans of both teams believe the competition will be close and fun to watch all season long. Why should V/M fans be feeling any sense of panic? Both teams have started off basically running neck and neck like they always do. In fact, why should fans of either team panic? That's stupid. It's incredibly early and these FDs are already on pace to decimate scoring records.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-51545900382191064732011-11-04T21:13:12.375-07:002011-11-04T21:13:12.375-07:00I'm sensing a bit of panic from Voir fans.I'm sensing a bit of panic from Voir fans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-24886260937324193282011-11-04T18:39:35.829-07:002011-11-04T18:39:35.829-07:00A lot of people look at the Funny Face plot and ap...A lot of people look at the Funny Face plot and apply the same lack of sophistication to the music. Tessa and Scott aren't playing it safe with the music and rhythms by any stretch. Ice dance is dancing and rhythm, not acting and theme. You can do a million love story sorts of programs and never repeat as long as you mix up the rhythms and the choreographic relationship to the score. Astaire was always very sophisticated - he'd mix up his choreography so it red to the score in a very sophisticated way. VM do the same with their ice dancing. Meryl and Charlie always stay dead on beat. It's not risky. They don't relate to it - the choreography just keeps in time with it. And their choreography is so busy, it takes their own rhythmic sense out of the equation. They'll never fall out of rhythm because they're busy busy - every second is accounted for. There's no breathing room for their own rhythm to respond to the music.<br /><br />A lot of classical music was popular music of its day. I really wouldn't run around holding up everything so-called classical as more sophisticated or difficult to dance to than so-called popular music.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-31873861251526457712011-11-04T18:26:53.373-07:002011-11-04T18:26:53.373-07:00"Oh lord. Die Fledermaus is not the easiest r..."Oh lord. Die Fledermaus is not the easiest rhythm in music. The meter changes throughout the Overture. Let's not act like Funny Face is as difficult as Shostakovich or Prokofiev."<br /><br />You're underrating Funny Face as a challenging ice dance program score. Gershwin's very tricky, musically, and rhythmically. Never mind they're part of the Great American Songbook. The three selections in Scott and Tessa's program create a unified program but are challenging rhymically.<br /><br />Die Fledermaus? It's extremely easy from an ice-dancing perspective. The music is not subtle. Rhythmacially, it's overt - hence its popularity. It signals everything. You'd have to be literally deaf not to be able to keep time with Strauss. There are no subtleties from a dance perspective, as there are few subtleties in Meryl and Charlie's skating.<br /><br />You could make squirrels appear to be dancing to Die Fledermaus. From a dance perspective, it does the work for Meryl and Charlie. They can go trick to trick, as fast as they can, and the music selection takes care of the rhythm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-48892149240447372002011-11-04T12:46:07.078-07:002011-11-04T12:46:07.078-07:00Anon @7:09:
That's the best reply you could c...Anon @7:09:<br /><br />That's the best reply you could come up with? "You're annoying?" Hahahaha.<br /><br />And, oh, if AJ and Johnny Weir said that Bollywood was the best OD of the year and/or that it was ridiculous V/M defeated D/W in every PCS category at the Olympics, well then, how silly of me to argue otherwise. Nevermind that D/W's PCS numbers (including the one for choreography) were never more than 1 point higher than V/M's, even at the greatest pre-Olympics differential (which occured during the second GP for both - D/W bested V/M in the PCS by half a point and then the gap closed after that), or that as the season progressed, the scores revealed a trend that, prior to the Olympics, the overall growth of V/M's PCS scores was outpacing D/W's. <br /><br />I'm not sure exactly what you're arguing about the choreography mark. That D/W's should have always been higher because it was, in your opinion, more cool and innovative a concept? When you look at the marks, what's clear is that prior to Vancouver, D/W were never blowing V/M out in the choreography category. And when V/M defeated D/W in choreography at the Olympics, they didn't blow them out of the water either. They were always pretty much neck and neck and it eventually came down to two tenths of a point. If the judges absolutely thought D/W's OD was a more innovative or original program than V/M's, it never resulted in any kind of significant choreography point differential prior to the Olympics, regardless of how much Bollywood was "raved about" in comparison to V/M's program. And because of that, I'm not sure why V/M having a higher choreography PCS mark than D/W in Vancouver should be attributed to home ice advantage or politics over V/M simply having polished their program to a point where everything came together as it was designed to do.<br /><br />I absolutely think Bollywood was very original and innovative, but I also don't feel that was necessarily enough to rack up more points under COP by Vancouver. Aside from their outstanding form, V/M also skated in more face to face, closed hold and did so with greater synchronization than D/W, and had movement that was absolutely dependent on phrasing and rhythms in their music (which IMO, is one of their greatest strengths). IMO, before Vancouver, even at Nationals, V/M still lacked a bit of the precision in their performance needed to defeat Bollywood. By the time they skated their OD in Vancouver, that was no longer the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-46700944962694600742011-11-04T11:38:04.490-07:002011-11-04T11:38:04.490-07:00Moving ahead a bit...
Another batch of crappy SD&...Moving ahead a bit...<br /><br />Another batch of crappy SD's at Cup O' China - I'm inclined to blame the new SD format - except last year the SD's were not all this bad. Maybe its having to have 3 separate cuts of music that's making them all seem so disjointed?<br /><br />I don't entire blame the format for the Shibs boring SD, they just seem to be extremely poor at Latin (and I am not a hater, I LOVED their programs last year).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-12237212960969999592011-11-04T09:43:57.834-07:002011-11-04T09:43:57.834-07:00Oh lord. Die Fledermaus is not the easiest rhythm...Oh lord. Die Fledermaus is not the easiest rhythm in music. The meter changes throughout the Overture. Let's not act like Funny Face is as difficult as Shostakovich or Prokofiev.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-83387509625243700792011-11-04T09:27:11.326-07:002011-11-04T09:27:11.326-07:00They're not raw - they're athletic and hav...They're not raw - they're athletic and have a lot of attack. They're excellent skaters.<br /><br />Many of their programs have to work around them not being especially musical or rhythmic as a dance team, while maximizing their speed and athleticism. Strauss is doing all the dancing for them. I really question AJ calling Funny Face safe and Strauss not - anyone can look like a dancer with Strauss playing, especially familiar Strauss. Funny Face is very tricky, jazzy, with tricky rythms in the first song, especially. It's got more subtle skating in it than people seem to be appreciating.<br /><br />Meryl and Charlie don't lack refinement. They lack control. Charlie's skating deteriorates when he has to hold or extend a move that's not a lift, especially skating moves done in dance holds with Meryl. He can do one, but not transition through several extended moves. They're nowhere near as versatile as Voir and Funny Face shows off Voir's skating versatility - they can do gorgeous skating any speed or rhythm all with perfect intention in every move.<br /><br />Strauss feels like racing through a whole bunch of dynamic, action-packed elements at one note. It's an exciting note, and it's also a really busy skate. Not the same as complex. Funny Face's rhythms are complex. Strauss's rhythms are the easiest in music.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-44725036378072690642011-11-04T08:26:20.901-07:002011-11-04T08:26:20.901-07:00It'll be interesting to see how Meryl and Char...It'll be interesting to see how Meryl and Charlie bring refinement into their skating while still maintaining the rawness that makes their skating so distinctive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-5904481475353201182011-11-04T07:16:56.681-07:002011-11-04T07:16:56.681-07:00Bollywood was an entertaining program but Farrucus...Bollywood was an entertaining program but Farrucus was a much more difficult program. Meryl and Charlie did a lot of audience-appeal tricks in Bollywood, a lot of side by side and front-to-back. Their movements weren't as interdependent on each other as Voir's. Flamenco was a terrifyingly risky program to skate. No other dance team could have attempted it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6387050766907671577.post-54283777676213125112011-11-04T07:15:01.649-07:002011-11-04T07:15:01.649-07:00Strauss has got to be the easiest music on the pla...Strauss has got to be the easiest music on the planet for ice dance - you don't even have to have rhythm as a dancer, the specific dance rhythm of the music carries you. If you want safe, skate Die Fledermaus. Everyone recognizes it even if they don't know it's Strauss.<br /><br />The Funny Face music is harder, jazzier, the rhythms of the first two sections are very difficult and the tempo changes inside the first two sections are challenging too. Strauss - difficult? My word. It does the dancing for Meryl and Charlie.<br /><br />D/W would be more impressive if they had more variation of tempo in their skate. They do everything fast. They don't demonstrate the mastery Voir show - the perfect body control. Stillness can be far more difficult than throwing yourself around from point to point. D/W hardly ever hold a move. A hectic program doesn't = a better program - very fast, busy skating doesn't = better skating. Voir's legs don't churn as much either, and that's because they get more run out of their blades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com